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What about Safari?

kstrauser 5y ago
That's a perfectly valid question. Lots of people use Chrome because they've used Chrome, and that's the whole reason. Some people need Chrome because it supports some site or tool that they require. I recommend that everyone else at least try Safari and see what they think of it.
- davio 5y ago
  When I first had my M1, I ironically had to use Canary for stability purposes
- spurgu 5y ago
  Last time I tried it (couple of months ago) there were practically no extensions and Bitwarden didn't work in incognito. And Chrome's UI/UX is simply great. And dev tools as well.
  - mvanbaak 5y ago
    That’s a personal preference thing. Personally I think chrome UI/UX is horrible and slow. Ut I’m a safari user so again: personal preference.
    - spurgu 5y ago
      Sure, I've never used Safari enough myself to have an opinion (since it's never been an option for me due to various things), it might be equal to Chrome or even better (I like Safari's clean UI). I'm mostly comparing it to Firefox which is quite clunky in my opinion (I've given it many chances). And I'm actually typing this on Safari now and it looks like the issue has been fixed - Bitwarden now works in private mode. Maybe it's time to give it yet another shot. :)
      - spurgu 5y ago
        Whoa. Maybe an hour into testing Safari and I look at Activity Monitor and see that https://calendar.google.com https://calendar.google.com is consuming 1 GB of RAM and https://docs.google.com https://docs.google.com 865 MB. :o Don't know if the numbers are comparable but in Chrome's Task Manager the numbers are 224 MB and 121 MB respectively. Edit: This might be an old (unfixed) issue https://discussions.apple.com/thread/6640430 https://discussions.apple.com/thread/6640430 ... This sucks because I have a specific doc and the calendar that I always keep open in pinned tabs. There are some other sites with seemingly quite high RAM usage as well. Well at least nothing is lagging so I guess I'll just chug on and see what happens. Edit2: This behavior is just insane. I closed those two tabs and suddenly Gmail shoots up from out of the blue to 1.22 GB?! Then I reopen the two previous tabs (doc/calendar) again and Gmail stays the same while Calendar goes on a diet and sits at 187 MB (doc at 983). This is super weird. I'll just keep them open and see how it behaves overall, might just be wonky numbers?
        thu2111 5y ago
        It sounds like they are sharing memory and the shared memory is getting accounted to whatever tab was opened first until it closes.
        Frondo 5y ago
        I recently got an M1 mac myself and tried Safari out again -- I seldom used it on my 2016 Pro (preferred Firefox) but it's supposed to have stellar battery life, so why not give it a go? Nice that they've got built-in tracking protection now, I guess, but I left Twitter running in a tab overnight and when I woke up Safari was reporting over a gb of memory use for that tab alone. Something in how they cache or handle JS for some of these long-running services, or maybe having to do with service workers ?, Safari just seems to consume a lot of memory. It's not a huge issue I guess, with the way the M1 never seems to have any memory pressure issues, but it's part of why I remember switching off Safari in the first place. If anyone knows why Safari seems to consume more memory with these long-running processes, I'd be real curious to know why...
        5y ago

What about Safari?

That's a perfectly valid question. Lots of people use Chrome because they've used Chrome, and that's the whole reason. Some people need Chrome because it supports some site or tool that they require. I recommend that everyone else at least try Safari and see what they think of it.

davio 5y ago
When I first had my M1, I ironically had to use Canary for stability purposes
spurgu 5y ago
Last time I tried it (couple of months ago) there were practically no extensions and Bitwarden didn't work in incognito. And Chrome's UI/UX is simply great. And dev tools as well.
- mvanbaak 5y ago
  That’s a personal preference thing. Personally I think chrome UI/UX is horrible and slow. Ut I’m a safari user so again: personal preference.
  - spurgu 5y ago
    Sure, I've never used Safari enough myself to have an opinion (since it's never been an option for me due to various things), it might be equal to Chrome or even better (I like Safari's clean UI). I'm mostly comparing it to Firefox which is quite clunky in my opinion (I've given it many chances). And I'm actually typing this on Safari now and it looks like the issue has been fixed - Bitwarden now works in private mode. Maybe it's time to give it yet another shot. :)
    - spurgu 5y ago
      Whoa. Maybe an hour into testing Safari and I look at Activity Monitor and see that https://calendar.google.com https://calendar.google.com is consuming 1 GB of RAM and https://docs.google.com https://docs.google.com 865 MB. :o Don't know if the numbers are comparable but in Chrome's Task Manager the numbers are 224 MB and 121 MB respectively. Edit: This might be an old (unfixed) issue https://discussions.apple.com/thread/6640430 https://discussions.apple.com/thread/6640430 ... This sucks because I have a specific doc and the calendar that I always keep open in pinned tabs. There are some other sites with seemingly quite high RAM usage as well. Well at least nothing is lagging so I guess I'll just chug on and see what happens. Edit2: This behavior is just insane. I closed those two tabs and suddenly Gmail shoots up from out of the blue to 1.22 GB?! Then I reopen the two previous tabs (doc/calendar) again and Gmail stays the same while Calendar goes on a diet and sits at 187 MB (doc at 983). This is super weird. I'll just keep them open and see how it behaves overall, might just be wonky numbers?
      - thu2111 5y ago
        It sounds like they are sharing memory and the shared memory is getting accounted to whatever tab was opened first until it closes.
      - Frondo 5y ago
        I recently got an M1 mac myself and tried Safari out again -- I seldom used it on my 2016 Pro (preferred Firefox) but it's supposed to have stellar battery life, so why not give it a go? Nice that they've got built-in tracking protection now, I guess, but I left Twitter running in a tab overnight and when I woke up Safari was reporting over a gb of memory use for that tab alone. Something in how they cache or handle JS for some of these long-running services, or maybe having to do with service workers ?, Safari just seems to consume a lot of memory. It's not a huge issue I guess, with the way the M1 never seems to have any memory pressure issues, but it's part of why I remember switching off Safari in the first place. If anyone knows why Safari seems to consume more memory with these long-running processes, I'd be real curious to know why...
        5y ago