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There's https://github.com/MichaelMure/git-bug https://github.com/MichaelMure/git-bug (I haven't tried it out yet, but looks very promising).

BiteCode_dev 5y ago
You are my hero today. EDIT: just tried it, still very basic, but already does the job for a small project. I'm considering contributing.
- michaelmure 5y ago
  Yes please :) Edit: consider having a look at the development version. While the core feature hasn't changed much, the webUI definitely improved. Also, the core became more robust and ready to accept more features easily.
eMGm4D0zgUAVXc7 5y ago
Not very promising, it is written in a language which: - is controlled by Google. - doesn't support generics. Do we really want people to constantly rewrite basic data structure classes in 2021 and thereby reinvent bugs constantly (and waste time which could be spent on more meaningful purposes)?
- BiteCode_dev 5y ago
  I don't care, I want to use it not dev in it. If the people working for free to give me FOSS are happy with this stack, more power to them. No complaining.
  - eMGm4D0zgUAVXc7 5y ago
    Do you use the same argument when purchasing consumer products from shady countries which abuse workers? "I only want to use it, I don't want to produce it"? We shouldn't support bad things by giving them publicity through using them. The least harm it will cause is disincentivizing someone else from creating something better, which is annoying enough already.
    - BiteCode_dev 5y ago
      Comparing people taste in language with slavery. That's... bold.
      - eMGm4D0zgUAVXc7 5y ago
        Google doesn't pay anyone for the billions of recaptchas they force Internet users to solve for free - to then profit off by using them to train their AI which leaks into nobody-knows-how-many products. So I think it's pretty fine to put them into the bucket of entities which benefit from forced labor. They merely don't coax people into it by physical force but rather by locking them out of most of the Internet if they don't comply.
        StandardFuture 5y ago
        Very valid points about recaptchas. Now, what does that have to do with the Go programming language that is FOSS? Or are you calling for developers to essentially put restrictive sanctions on any and all Google products/projects? And if so, are you actually holding yourself to the same standard? Never using a recaptcha? Never visiting a site that uses Google Analytics? Never watching a YouTube video? Never using a device which runs the Android operating system? etc., etc.? Because you seem to be demanding such a standard from the rest of us.
        eMGm4D0zgUAVXc7 5y ago
        > Or are you calling for developers to essentially put restrictive sanctions on any and all Google products/projects? Yes. > And if so, are you actually holding yourself to the same standard? Never using a recaptcha? Never visiting a site that uses Google Analytics? Never watching a YouTube video? Never using a device which runs the Android operating system? etc., etc.? I intentionally enter a large percentage of invalid data into recaptchas to spoil their dataset. Google Analytics is blocked by my ad blocker. Same goes for ads on youtube. With regards to using their stuff, I don't demand anyone should stop privately using it if they need it. You just shouldn't encourage any further people to use Google stuff by filling their ecosystem with more new software.
- tfsh 5y ago
  Neither of those criticisms pertain to the actual product itself. Go is a tried and tested product, used daily in critical infra and is FOSS
  - eMGm4D0zgUAVXc7 5y ago
    Forced labor is also tried and tested and doesn't pertain to the resulting product, yet you wouldn't willingly purchase products made by it, would you? A malicious producer can taint their products solely by being the producer.
    - BiteCode_dev 5y ago
      There is no moral component in a dev choosing a language for themself, what are you even talking about?
      - anonuser123456 5y ago
        There is most certainly a religious component :p
- mhaberl 5y ago
  So anything made by tech controlled by a big corp is not promising? We should not use Go, Java, C#, Angular, React, Objective-C, Swift, Kotlin, Dart, .... ?
  - eMGm4D0zgUAVXc7 5y ago
    I have no opinion on big corporations per se. I merely know that specifically Google needs to be anti-trust'ed into shreds and pieces and then some more. They control way too many parts of the public Internet, software and hardware. Giving them even more control by letting their programming languages permeate the fabric of the software ecosystem is a bad idea.
    - encryptluks2 5y ago
      This is such an oversimplification. Microsoft, Apple, Amazon, etc. are all guilty of ecosystem lock-in. Google in many ways is the most generous when it comes to open source and most of the hardware utilizing Google is by other manufacturers.
- thiht 5y ago
  Damn, these are some stupid arguments. Go is open source. Even if Google went rogue, there's nothing they could do. Go would just get forked by the community and that's it. As for generics, they're just nothing more than a developer convenience, they don't matter at all regarding what a product can do. Also they're planned in Go for next year.
  - eMGm4D0zgUAVXc7 5y ago
    > Go is open source. Even if Google went rogue, there's nothing they could do. Have you ever used a library where the company who paid the development went "whoops, not our product anymore! poof goes the paid team, website, the community forums, the knowledgebase" ? Usually nobody continues to maintain these after 90% of the workforce behind them gets fired and the surrounding infrastructure disappears. Software is almost worthless without the brains behind it. > As for generics, they're just nothing more than a developer convenience, So you propose people write the 100,000th implementation of linked lists, maps, etc. because what they want to stick into it is not class A but class B? > Also they're planned in Go for next year. The fact it took years to plan them instead of including them right away is a nice proof of how ill-conceived Go is as a language. It might have been nice as a toy to teach aspiring programmers. It shouldn't have ended up in production software. > Damn, these are some stupid arguments. Thanks. I consider yours as stupid too. How much progress exactly have we achieved with this wording now?
    - thiht 5y ago
      It's pretty clear you're trolling now, but FWIW: - slices and maps are already generic in Go - Go has great performance, great readability and write ability, and that's valuable for everyone, not just beginners - Go is a language, not a library > The fact it took years to plan them instead of including them right away is a nice proof of how ill-conceived Go is as a language. It's not. Really.
      - eMGm4D0zgUAVXc7 5y ago
        > It's pretty clear you're trolling now I am not. I genuinely think Google is evil and should be dismantled. > - slices and maps are already generic in Go So people are supposed to not rewrite 2 of the possibly infinite types of data structures and classes, and constantly rewrite all the rest of them? > - Go has great performance, great readability and write ability, and that's valuable for everyone, not just beginners Enough other languages do as well. > Go is a language, not a library If Google abandons the funding it does not matter what it technically is. No money, no developers.
- philipswood 5y ago
  For interest sake: what language carries your blessing instead?
- StandardFuture 5y ago
  You are absolutely right! And this is why I avoid any and all software written in C due to AT&Ts prior evil monopolistic practices of the mid-20th century. /s
rurban 5y ago
Working with it for some years already. Recently the UI part got much better, but the console part with or without bridge is good enough already.

BiteCode_dev 5y ago

You are my hero today. EDIT: just tried it, still very basic, but already does the job for a small project. I'm considering contributing.

michaelmure 5y ago
Yes please :) Edit: consider having a look at the development version. While the core feature hasn't changed much, the webUI definitely improved. Also, the core became more robust and ready to accept more features easily.

eMGm4D0zgUAVXc7 5y ago

Not very promising, it is written in a language which: - is controlled by Google. - doesn't support generics. Do we really want people to constantly rewrite basic data structure classes in 2021 and thereby reinvent bugs constantly (and waste time which could be spent on more meaningful purposes)?

BiteCode_dev 5y ago
I don't care, I want to use it not dev in it. If the people working for free to give me FOSS are happy with this stack, more power to them. No complaining.
- eMGm4D0zgUAVXc7 5y ago
  Do you use the same argument when purchasing consumer products from shady countries which abuse workers? "I only want to use it, I don't want to produce it"? We shouldn't support bad things by giving them publicity through using them. The least harm it will cause is disincentivizing someone else from creating something better, which is annoying enough already.
  - BiteCode_dev 5y ago
    Comparing people taste in language with slavery. That's... bold.
    - eMGm4D0zgUAVXc7 5y ago
      Google doesn't pay anyone for the billions of recaptchas they force Internet users to solve for free - to then profit off by using them to train their AI which leaks into nobody-knows-how-many products. So I think it's pretty fine to put them into the bucket of entities which benefit from forced labor. They merely don't coax people into it by physical force but rather by locking them out of most of the Internet if they don't comply.
      - StandardFuture 5y ago
        Very valid points about recaptchas. Now, what does that have to do with the Go programming language that is FOSS? Or are you calling for developers to essentially put restrictive sanctions on any and all Google products/projects? And if so, are you actually holding yourself to the same standard? Never using a recaptcha? Never visiting a site that uses Google Analytics? Never watching a YouTube video? Never using a device which runs the Android operating system? etc., etc.? Because you seem to be demanding such a standard from the rest of us.
        eMGm4D0zgUAVXc7 5y ago
        > Or are you calling for developers to essentially put restrictive sanctions on any and all Google products/projects? Yes. > And if so, are you actually holding yourself to the same standard? Never using a recaptcha? Never visiting a site that uses Google Analytics? Never watching a YouTube video? Never using a device which runs the Android operating system? etc., etc.? I intentionally enter a large percentage of invalid data into recaptchas to spoil their dataset. Google Analytics is blocked by my ad blocker. Same goes for ads on youtube. With regards to using their stuff, I don't demand anyone should stop privately using it if they need it. You just shouldn't encourage any further people to use Google stuff by filling their ecosystem with more new software.
tfsh 5y ago
Neither of those criticisms pertain to the actual product itself. Go is a tried and tested product, used daily in critical infra and is FOSS
- eMGm4D0zgUAVXc7 5y ago
  Forced labor is also tried and tested and doesn't pertain to the resulting product, yet you wouldn't willingly purchase products made by it, would you? A malicious producer can taint their products solely by being the producer.
  - BiteCode_dev 5y ago
    There is no moral component in a dev choosing a language for themself, what are you even talking about?
    - anonuser123456 5y ago
      There is most certainly a religious component :p
mhaberl 5y ago
So anything made by tech controlled by a big corp is not promising? We should not use Go, Java, C#, Angular, React, Objective-C, Swift, Kotlin, Dart, .... ?
- eMGm4D0zgUAVXc7 5y ago
  I have no opinion on big corporations per se. I merely know that specifically Google needs to be anti-trust'ed into shreds and pieces and then some more. They control way too many parts of the public Internet, software and hardware. Giving them even more control by letting their programming languages permeate the fabric of the software ecosystem is a bad idea.
  - encryptluks2 5y ago
    This is such an oversimplification. Microsoft, Apple, Amazon, etc. are all guilty of ecosystem lock-in. Google in many ways is the most generous when it comes to open source and most of the hardware utilizing Google is by other manufacturers.
thiht 5y ago
Damn, these are some stupid arguments. Go is open source. Even if Google went rogue, there's nothing they could do. Go would just get forked by the community and that's it. As for generics, they're just nothing more than a developer convenience, they don't matter at all regarding what a product can do. Also they're planned in Go for next year.
- eMGm4D0zgUAVXc7 5y ago
  > Go is open source. Even if Google went rogue, there's nothing they could do. Have you ever used a library where the company who paid the development went "whoops, not our product anymore! poof goes the paid team, website, the community forums, the knowledgebase" ? Usually nobody continues to maintain these after 90% of the workforce behind them gets fired and the surrounding infrastructure disappears. Software is almost worthless without the brains behind it. > As for generics, they're just nothing more than a developer convenience, So you propose people write the 100,000th implementation of linked lists, maps, etc. because what they want to stick into it is not class A but class B? > Also they're planned in Go for next year. The fact it took years to plan them instead of including them right away is a nice proof of how ill-conceived Go is as a language. It might have been nice as a toy to teach aspiring programmers. It shouldn't have ended up in production software. > Damn, these are some stupid arguments. Thanks. I consider yours as stupid too. How much progress exactly have we achieved with this wording now?
  - thiht 5y ago
    It's pretty clear you're trolling now, but FWIW: - slices and maps are already generic in Go - Go has great performance, great readability and write ability, and that's valuable for everyone, not just beginners - Go is a language, not a library > The fact it took years to plan them instead of including them right away is a nice proof of how ill-conceived Go is as a language. It's not. Really.
    - eMGm4D0zgUAVXc7 5y ago
      > It's pretty clear you're trolling now I am not. I genuinely think Google is evil and should be dismantled. > - slices and maps are already generic in Go So people are supposed to not rewrite 2 of the possibly infinite types of data structures and classes, and constantly rewrite all the rest of them? > - Go has great performance, great readability and write ability, and that's valuable for everyone, not just beginners Enough other languages do as well. > Go is a language, not a library If Google abandons the funding it does not matter what it technically is. No money, no developers.
philipswood 5y ago
For interest sake: what language carries your blessing instead?
StandardFuture 5y ago
You are absolutely right! And this is why I avoid any and all software written in C due to AT&Ts prior evil monopolistic practices of the mid-20th century. /s

rurban 5y ago

Working with it for some years already. Recently the UI part got much better, but the console part with or without bridge is good enough already.