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I disagree, ultimately, we the consumers are at fault. We buy the cheapest products (or the flashiest: see Apple) and these are the consequences. Companies have

I disagree, ultimately, we the consumers are at fault. We buy the cheapest products (or the flashiest: see Apple) and these are the consequences. Companies have to save costs to compete because we won't agree to pay more. We won't vote for politicians that make everybody's life better: we will vote for politicians who promises that "the other guys" are going to suffer and that "you or your group" is going to have an easy life. Somewhere down the line, yeah, Egypt is to blame, but we are the source of the problem - we are to blame. If you want these kind of things to decrease, try to buy local products, try to buy second hand, try to vote for the benefit of everybody (not just you or your group), try to pollute less, try to be conscious about the effects of your actions, and be less egoistic.

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1337shadow 5y ago
You are Nongqawuse :) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nongqawuse https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nongqawuse
- Popegaf 5y ago
  You are Ken M :) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_M https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_M
  - 1337shadow 5y ago
    You mean I'm amagogotya :P
cardanome 5y ago
> I disagree, ultimately, we the consumers are at fault. Nope. This is a lie fabricated by big corporations so that they don't seem responsible. People have limited money and time. Just because you buy a more expensive product does not mean it is produced more ethically. If two companies are selling their product for the same price then the one using non ethical behavior to lower production cost will still make more profit. It has a competitive advantage and will take over the market. Increasing the base price because you as a consumer are willing to pay more does not help the situation. Some companies advertise with certain labels that imply that they are more ethical. One example of this is called green washing. Most of the time it is an advertisement stunt and does not improve the situation. The research necessary to ensure the product you buy is ethically produced is way above the scope for an average consumer having a job and other obligations to do. > We won't vote for politicians that make everybody's life better Lobbyists have way more power over politicians than the common man trying to vote for the smaller evil. Only if they are organized do they have a voice. For this they need to first understand that blaming consumers is a lie and that the industry needs to be regulated.

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1337shadow 5y ago

You are Nongqawuse :) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nongqawuse https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nongqawuse

Popegaf 5y ago
You are Ken M :) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_M https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_M
- 1337shadow 5y ago
  You mean I'm amagogotya :P

cardanome 5y ago

> I disagree, ultimately, we the consumers are at fault. Nope. This is a lie fabricated by big corporations so that they don't seem responsible. People have limited money and time. Just because you buy a more expensive product does not mean it is produced more ethically. If two companies are selling their product for the same price then the one using non ethical behavior to lower production cost will still make more profit. It has a competitive advantage and will take over the market. Increasing the base price because you as a consumer are willing to pay more does not help the situation. Some companies advertise with certain labels that imply that they are more ethical. One example of this is called green washing. Most of the time it is an advertisement stunt and does not improve the situation. The research necessary to ensure the product you buy is ethically produced is way above the scope for an average consumer having a job and other obligations to do. > We won't vote for politicians that make everybody's life better Lobbyists have way more power over politicians than the common man trying to vote for the smaller evil. Only if they are organized do they have a voice. For this they need to first understand that blaming consumers is a lie and that the industry needs to be regulated.