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In my opinion: as long as NK blocks its average citizens from using the internet, we should block the "privileged" in NK from using the internet.
by creato 5y ago
In my opinion: as long as NK blocks its average citizens from using the internet, we should block the "privileged" in NK from using the internet.
- codezero 5y agoThe reason we haven't bothered trying, I assume, is because we can very easily see what they _are_ doing if we don't block it, and if we do, they'll just go through China.
- boomboomsubban 5y agoSo you don't oppose internet access being blocked, you just want to be the one to control who's blocked? Or you are only in favor of blocking access to those who block others, so you're willing to sacrifice your access to block theirs?
- edgyquant 5y agoThese seems like some kinda paradox of intolerance. If they block all their citizens from using the wider internet we should absolutely block them.
- boomboomsubban 5y agoIf we block their citizens from the wider internet, we should be blocked too then.
- edgyquant 5y agoThis doesn’t make any sense. Are you saying they should block us? The point would be moot if they’re already blocked. Are you saying we should let their elites indulge in our media when their own citizens can’t? Because if so you’ve completely ignored my statement about the paradox of intolerance
- boomboomsubban 5y agoI'm saying we shouldn't block people from the internet as punishment for blocking people from the internet, we are committing the crime we're punishing. I realize that there isn't an external power that could block US access like the US can do to North Korea, which is why my original post used "sacrifice."
- edgyquant 5y agoAgain, paradox of intolerance. This is the same as thinking we shouldn’t use violence against those who use violence to subdue others.
- boomboomsubban 5y agoIf you use violence to stop someone from using violence, you either reduced the amount of violence done or kept it the same. There can be some ethical uses there. The concept can be spread to some other areas, but only ones in which the intolerance could hamper the intolerant, which I don't think is the case here. It's typically known as the "paradox of tolerance" by the way, your mistaken version didn't ring any bells, and I assumed you thought the argument ended in a logical paradox.
- irundebian 5y agoThe same could apply to blocking. What's your problem?
- dheera 5y agoNo, we shouldn't. Among those "privileged" people are the ones who are actually capable of leading a revolution in North Korea, and will not be outspoken about it until they have a proper plan. I do not believe in imposing restrictions on them.