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I'm not suggesting that we need to get those things to zero. I'm suggesting that's what PG is making the argument for. You can't have it both ways, you can't ar

I'm not suggesting that we need to get those things to zero. I'm suggesting that's what PG is making the argument for. You can't have it both ways, you can't argue that the death penalty is a unique harm because of the innocent deaths whilst ignoring other innocent deaths. The death penalty is all about the state's role -that is the thing that distinguishes it from traffic deaths. If you really do subcribe to PG's argument then the answer is "Well, if that's the priority, the death penalty isn't bad compared to 1000 other things". We're literally talking about more innocent people dying from car deaths in a day that from being sentenced to death in a year. What PG is doing here is making the argument for the death penalty weaker by arguing for it on the weakest possible basis. Oh and also, it's not 0 cost. It's probably a hugely expensive long and drawn out politial process to get rid of. For the pay off that's similar in scope to a moderate sized town lowering its speed limit. Not to mention the fact that these people who are sentenced to death incorrectly aren't being set free, they're likely still spending decades in prison.

bena 6y ago
You're ignoring our active participation in it. It's not about the state's role in it per se, so much as, like I've said previously, the fact that we are choosing to directly end someone's life. And innocent people don't die in car accidents, unfortunate people do. People who get executed are deliberately executed. It's as 0 cost as you can get. It's not a hugely expensive process, courts can just not sentence people to death. It's not like we're sticking these people on a huge conveyor belt that's impossible to remove them from. > Not to mention the fact that these people who are sentenced to death incorrectly aren't being set free, they're likely still spending decades in prison. And? Because we've wronged them somewhat, it's ok that we wrong them further? What sort of logic is that?

bena 6y ago

You're ignoring our active participation in it. It's not about the state's role in it per se, so much as, like I've said previously, the fact that we are choosing to directly end someone's life. And innocent people don't die in car accidents, unfortunate people do. People who get executed are deliberately executed. It's as 0 cost as you can get. It's not a hugely expensive process, courts can just not sentence people to death. It's not like we're sticking these people on a huge conveyor belt that's impossible to remove them from. > Not to mention the fact that these people who are sentenced to death incorrectly aren't being set free, they're likely still spending decades in prison. And? Because we've wronged them somewhat, it's ok that we wrong them further? What sort of logic is that?