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I mean it's just so far off. Check levels.fyi, Google/Airbnb/Coinbase will be paying $300k+ for software engineers with 4+ years of experience.

by lacker 5y ago

wasmitnetzen 5y ago
Money isn't everything to everyone. Different people value different things. I could probably get a job in the US with my work experience, but I'm happy here in Sweden, even though I make less than $100k a year. It's enough to pay for my lifestyle, so why should I trade a big part of my 30 days of vacation for more money which I don't need?
phendrenad2 5y ago
I don't think any German companies compare to Google/Airbnb/Coinbase. And it's not guaranteed that if you move to Mountain View you'll get a job at Google. Just saying.
mkipper 5y ago
Those salaries are also: 1. Unprecedented for "average" engineers (i.e. not leading their field) until very recently 2. Offered by extremely profitable big tech companies or less profitable companies with giant pools of funding 3. Offered by companies that highly value software engineers 4. Offered in extremely competitive markets The vast majority of employers in Germany, and in most of the world, don't meet those criteria. It's unreasonable to compare the average German tech company to the best paying American tech companies. Compared to the best paying software jobs on earth, German tech pays pretty badly. But so do most companies. I used to live in a city with a population of ~1 million, and most local "tech" companies paid new grads $60k - $80k, with senior developers landing between $100k and $150k. That's much closer to Germany pay than Silicon Valley pay.
dzonga 5y ago
> I mean it's just so far off. Check levels.fyi, Google/Airbnb/Coinbase will be paying $300k+ for software engineers with 4+ years of experience. Don't know why people here like quoting those companies as if they're representatives of the industry in general. Even in 'SV' most startups are not paying 300k. Most likely 150k~ for a senior. Median dev job earnings in the US are around 90k. Last time I remember from bls

I mean it's just so far off. Check levels.fyi, Google/Airbnb/Coinbase will be paying $300k+ for software engineers with 4+ years of experience.

by lacker 5y ago

I mean it's just so far off. Check levels.fyi, Google/Airbnb/Coinbase will be paying $300k+ for software engineers with 4+ years of experience.

wasmitnetzen 5y ago

Money isn't everything to everyone. Different people value different things. I could probably get a job in the US with my work experience, but I'm happy here in Sweden, even though I make less than $100k a year. It's enough to pay for my lifestyle, so why should I trade a big part of my 30 days of vacation for more money which I don't need?

phendrenad2 5y ago

I don't think any German companies compare to Google/Airbnb/Coinbase. And it's not guaranteed that if you move to Mountain View you'll get a job at Google. Just saying.

mkipper 5y ago

Those salaries are also: 1. Unprecedented for "average" engineers (i.e. not leading their field) until very recently 2. Offered by extremely profitable big tech companies or less profitable companies with giant pools of funding 3. Offered by companies that highly value software engineers 4. Offered in extremely competitive markets The vast majority of employers in Germany, and in most of the world, don't meet those criteria. It's unreasonable to compare the average German tech company to the best paying American tech companies. Compared to the best paying software jobs on earth, German tech pays pretty badly. But so do most companies. I used to live in a city with a population of ~1 million, and most local "tech" companies paid new grads $60k - $80k, with senior developers landing between $100k and $150k. That's much closer to Germany pay than Silicon Valley pay.

dzonga 5y ago

> I mean it's just so far off. Check levels.fyi, Google/Airbnb/Coinbase will be paying $300k+ for software engineers with 4+ years of experience. Don't know why people here like quoting those companies as if they're representatives of the industry in general. Even in 'SV' most startups are not paying 300k. Most likely 150k~ for a senior. Median dev job earnings in the US are around 90k. Last time I remember from bls