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I personally believe education should just move forward into a world where cheating is impossible. Hands-on schools like Olin College of Engineering make it pra

I personally believe education should just move forward into a world where cheating is impossible. Hands-on schools like Olin College of Engineering make it practically impossible to cheat... because you actually have to build something! Sure, plagiarism is still an issue, but that's much easier to control for than monitoring students while they take a test.

arp242 6y ago
I don't disagree, but the issue here is one of scale and costs. Testing is just easy, cheap, and very ingrained to boot. A single teacher can teach dozens or hundreds of students. Olin charges $55,612/year tuition fees alone; the total costs are estimated at $79,024/year[1]. This is a lot higher than a lot of other "normal" universities[2], and even seems higher than most "top universities"[3]. I'm sure it's great if you can afford it, but most can't. [1]: https://www.olin.edu/admission/costs/cost-of-attendance/ https://www.olin.edu/admission/costs/cost-of-attendance/ [2]: https://uscollegeinternational.com/2019/10/03/cheap-engineering-schools-in-usa/ https://uscollegeinternational.com/2019/10/03/cheap-engineer... [3]: https://studyabroad.careers360.com/articles/engineering-in-usa-know-study-cost https://studyabroad.careers360.com/articles/engineering-in-u...
- jkelleyrtp 6y ago
  Olin provides a 50% scholarship for everyone and does really well at financial aid. I currently go here :). In the beginning of the school's lifetime, everyone had a 100% scholarship. It's a common tactic for schools to say their college is the same price as MIT/Harvard but not actually cost that much. Plus, many schools are moving towards a co-op/hand son/project-based model, even public ones. University of Waterloo is such an example, and many state schools I know are also transitioning into a project-based model. It's not that more expensive than testing - especially given the fact that everyone has a computer, 3d printers and workshops are relatively cheap, and most undergrad projects aren't that expensive. Students tend to get internships, pay for their school, and move into high paying jobs immediately out of school because how much experience they have, even if they have to give up some theoretical basis. That being said, Olin generates many grad-school students that do well at research.

arp242 6y ago

I don't disagree, but the issue here is one of scale and costs. Testing is just easy, cheap, and very ingrained to boot. A single teacher can teach dozens or hundreds of students. Olin charges $55,612/year tuition fees alone; the total costs are estimated at $79,024/year[1]. This is a lot higher than a lot of other "normal" universities[2], and even seems higher than most "top universities"[3]. I'm sure it's great if you can afford it, but most can't. [1]: https://www.olin.edu/admission/costs/cost-of-attendance/ https://www.olin.edu/admission/costs/cost-of-attendance/ [2]: https://uscollegeinternational.com/2019/10/03/cheap-engineering-schools-in-usa/ https://uscollegeinternational.com/2019/10/03/cheap-engineer... [3]: https://studyabroad.careers360.com/articles/engineering-in-usa-know-study-cost https://studyabroad.careers360.com/articles/engineering-in-u...

jkelleyrtp 6y ago
Olin provides a 50% scholarship for everyone and does really well at financial aid. I currently go here :). In the beginning of the school's lifetime, everyone had a 100% scholarship. It's a common tactic for schools to say their college is the same price as MIT/Harvard but not actually cost that much. Plus, many schools are moving towards a co-op/hand son/project-based model, even public ones. University of Waterloo is such an example, and many state schools I know are also transitioning into a project-based model. It's not that more expensive than testing - especially given the fact that everyone has a computer, 3d printers and workshops are relatively cheap, and most undergrad projects aren't that expensive. Students tend to get internships, pay for their school, and move into high paying jobs immediately out of school because how much experience they have, even if they have to give up some theoretical basis. That being said, Olin generates many grad-school students that do well at research.