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Hard evidence? No. The exact plot of land they chose is not particularly remarkable, so I must wonder why they chose a piece of land straddling the watershed, g

Hard evidence? No. The exact plot of land they chose is not particularly remarkable, so I must wonder why they chose a piece of land straddling the watershed, given that the Compact [1] indirectly applies to corporations. There's a deeper political aspect to Foxconn's presence that I can't trust. I'm from Wisconsin, and the whole Foxconn deal leaves me feeling extremely uneasy. Leaving aside the Wisconsin and USA politicians associated with the deal, Terry Guo briefly ran for president of the Republic of China. Guo and Foxconn made significant donations to UW-Madison. It smells wrong, and all the Wisconsinites I've talked to agree. I'm glad their subsidies were slashed. [1] https://www.gsgp.org/media/1330/great_lakes-st_lawrence_river_basin_water_resources_compact.pdf https://www.gsgp.org/media/1330/great_lakes-st_lawrence_rive...

KZZ 6y ago
Also a Wisconsinite here. I've been involved with the deal and haven't noticed any care about any watershed related things. Most of the business they've attracted so far are companies who want contract manufacturing outside of mainland China. The large "screen factory" is still largely empty, and they have no concrete plans for it, but the side projects which piggybacked on to that plan have seen some success.
- waterheater 6y ago
  What projects might those be? Genuinely curious, as I haven't heard any news about them.
hnworthing 6y ago
> Terry Guo briefly ran for president of the Republic of China. I have reservations about Foxconn too, but I’m not sure I understand why this bit is relevant. The Republic of China = Taiwan, a US ally. (Mainland China is the People’s Republic of China). This is akin to Bloomberg running for president. Also it’s Terry Gou and not Guo.
- hayst4ck 6y ago
  My understanding is that he ran under KMT, which is the much more China friendly party.
  - 8note 6y ago
    I wouldn't fault a Canadian prime Minister for running with a US friendly platform.
    - hayst4ck 6y ago
      Why? Is geography or military danger the key element, economic deals, or easy borders? Taiwan is a vibrant liberal democracy that feels very western. China is a fascist ethnostate. China is threatening Taiwan's ability to self determine with military force, economic sanctions, and any other means of coercion at their disposal. China has demonstrated it's bad faith via denial of 1 country 2 systems, as well as a pineapple (miliworms) and pineapple cake (ractopamine) ban done clearly in bad faith (not for the reason stated). The equivalence you have made is absolutely false. The relationship between Taiwan and China, the relationship between foxconn and china, and the releationship between Terry, the KMT, China, and the US, are all quite complicated. Above it was claimed that Foxconn/Terry are Taiwanese and therefore American Allies, but Foxconn's business is primarily conducted in China and the KMT are definitely the party that China is aiming to corrupt Taiwan's leadership through. It's complicated.
skinnymuch 6y ago
Foxconn is Taiwanese. Wouldn’t Foxconn affiliated people naturally have involvement with Taiwan? Taiwan is our ally. Forget the Middle East for a second. If China was to take TSMC’s factories over. It would be world war 3 most likely.
- hayst4ck 6y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxconn#Mainland_China https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxconn#Mainland_China https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_Gou#Political_career https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_Gou#Political_career To say Foxconn is complicated would be an understatement.

KZZ 6y ago

Also a Wisconsinite here. I've been involved with the deal and haven't noticed any care about any watershed related things. Most of the business they've attracted so far are companies who want contract manufacturing outside of mainland China. The large "screen factory" is still largely empty, and they have no concrete plans for it, but the side projects which piggybacked on to that plan have seen some success.

waterheater 6y ago
What projects might those be? Genuinely curious, as I haven't heard any news about them.

hnworthing 6y ago

> Terry Guo briefly ran for president of the Republic of China. I have reservations about Foxconn too, but I’m not sure I understand why this bit is relevant. The Republic of China = Taiwan, a US ally. (Mainland China is the People’s Republic of China). This is akin to Bloomberg running for president. Also it’s Terry Gou and not Guo.

hayst4ck 6y ago
My understanding is that he ran under KMT, which is the much more China friendly party.
- 8note 6y ago
  I wouldn't fault a Canadian prime Minister for running with a US friendly platform.
  - hayst4ck 6y ago
    Why? Is geography or military danger the key element, economic deals, or easy borders? Taiwan is a vibrant liberal democracy that feels very western. China is a fascist ethnostate. China is threatening Taiwan's ability to self determine with military force, economic sanctions, and any other means of coercion at their disposal. China has demonstrated it's bad faith via denial of 1 country 2 systems, as well as a pineapple (miliworms) and pineapple cake (ractopamine) ban done clearly in bad faith (not for the reason stated). The equivalence you have made is absolutely false. The relationship between Taiwan and China, the relationship between foxconn and china, and the releationship between Terry, the KMT, China, and the US, are all quite complicated. Above it was claimed that Foxconn/Terry are Taiwanese and therefore American Allies, but Foxconn's business is primarily conducted in China and the KMT are definitely the party that China is aiming to corrupt Taiwan's leadership through. It's complicated.

skinnymuch 6y ago

Foxconn is Taiwanese. Wouldn’t Foxconn affiliated people naturally have involvement with Taiwan? Taiwan is our ally. Forget the Middle East for a second. If China was to take TSMC’s factories over. It would be world war 3 most likely.

hayst4ck 6y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxconn#Mainland_China https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxconn#Mainland_China https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_Gou#Political_career https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_Gou#Political_career To say Foxconn is complicated would be an understatement.