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You don't have to use the mouse with tiling window managers... /s heavy tmux user that left it for xmonad.

by busterarm 6y ago

ibraheemdev 6y ago
Yeah, I think that the main benefit of tmux is session management. Tiling window managers can replace tmux panes.
- busterarm 6y ago
  Aye. Occasionally I'll pop tmux open in a tile for this purpose. It's been reduced to merely being a replacement for screen for me.
- alpaca128 6y ago
  Tiling window managers cannot replace a multiplexer's knowledge about the session. I use a multiplexer because it lets me instantly open a new terminal in the same directory I'm currently working in. Furthermore it can open the terminal's buffer in Vim, letting me select and copy text using all features and shortcuts I'm used to. Doing the same by scrolling around, selecting snippets using the mouse and pressing Ctrl-Shift-C cannot compete with that. Yes, there are a few terminal emulators with integrated tabs and window splitting and all that which offer similar features, but then they also have countless other things I don't need and in return take ten times longer to open a new window.
  - ibraheemdev 6y ago
    > I use a multiplexer because it lets me instantly open a new terminal in the same directory I'm currently working in. You can add a keybinding for this with alacritty: { key: N, mods: Command, action: SpawnNewInstance } > Furthermore it can open the terminal's buffer in Vim, letting me select and copy text using all features and shortcuts I'm used to alacritty has vi mode which gives you all of those keybindings without having to open vim (ctrl+shift+space).
    - alpaca128 6y ago
      > alacritty has vi mode which gives you all of those keybindings It doesn't give me access to my custom keybindings or the plugins I have setup in Vim. Also I can't select or annotate terminal output and then save it directly into a file in one step. The multiplexer is both more powerful and flexible by actually doing less and just passing tasks like selection and copying to other proven tools. I appreciate that more than terminals trying to do everything.
      - ibraheemdev 6y ago
        Well, I'm not sure why you need vim plugins for copy-pasting from the terminal, but I agree that it is more powerful. My point is that a lot of people don't need tmux/zellij because their terminal emulators provide much of the useful functionality.
alex_smart 6y ago
Can you select and copy some text from your terminal emulator without using tmux? Copy-mode is one of the killer features of tmux for me. The only terminal emulator that supports selection with keyboard afaik is rxvt with plugins. I would be interested to know if there are other terminals that support this. Please don't say emacs XD
- busterarm 6y ago
  You can use any terminal emulator you want with tiling window managers...I don't see the issue. Run rxvt if you like.

You don't have to use the mouse with tiling window managers... /s heavy tmux user that left it for xmonad.

ibraheemdev 6y ago

Yeah, I think that the main benefit of tmux is session management. Tiling window managers can replace tmux panes.

busterarm 6y ago
Aye. Occasionally I'll pop tmux open in a tile for this purpose. It's been reduced to merely being a replacement for screen for me.
alpaca128 6y ago
Tiling window managers cannot replace a multiplexer's knowledge about the session. I use a multiplexer because it lets me instantly open a new terminal in the same directory I'm currently working in. Furthermore it can open the terminal's buffer in Vim, letting me select and copy text using all features and shortcuts I'm used to. Doing the same by scrolling around, selecting snippets using the mouse and pressing Ctrl-Shift-C cannot compete with that. Yes, there are a few terminal emulators with integrated tabs and window splitting and all that which offer similar features, but then they also have countless other things I don't need and in return take ten times longer to open a new window.
- ibraheemdev 6y ago
  > I use a multiplexer because it lets me instantly open a new terminal in the same directory I'm currently working in. You can add a keybinding for this with alacritty: { key: N, mods: Command, action: SpawnNewInstance } > Furthermore it can open the terminal's buffer in Vim, letting me select and copy text using all features and shortcuts I'm used to alacritty has vi mode which gives you all of those keybindings without having to open vim (ctrl+shift+space).
  - alpaca128 6y ago
    > alacritty has vi mode which gives you all of those keybindings It doesn't give me access to my custom keybindings or the plugins I have setup in Vim. Also I can't select or annotate terminal output and then save it directly into a file in one step. The multiplexer is both more powerful and flexible by actually doing less and just passing tasks like selection and copying to other proven tools. I appreciate that more than terminals trying to do everything.
    - ibraheemdev 6y ago
      Well, I'm not sure why you need vim plugins for copy-pasting from the terminal, but I agree that it is more powerful. My point is that a lot of people don't need tmux/zellij because their terminal emulators provide much of the useful functionality.

alex_smart 6y ago

Can you select and copy some text from your terminal emulator without using tmux? Copy-mode is one of the killer features of tmux for me. The only terminal emulator that supports selection with keyboard afaik is rxvt with plugins. I would be interested to know if there are other terminals that support this. Please don't say emacs XD

busterarm 6y ago
You can use any terminal emulator you want with tiling window managers...I don't see the issue. Run rxvt if you like.