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This does not make much sense to me. Keeping prostitution illegal and criminalising it sends both the sexworkers and their clients onto the black market. There,

This does not make much sense to me. Keeping prostitution illegal and criminalising it sends both the sexworkers and their clients onto the black market. There, sex workers have no rights. Sex workers can’t even complain when abused because they’d get punished a second time by authorities. I don’t really know how a study like that can can be conducted with a phenomenon that is hidden from the public view. https://harvardcrcl.org/to-protect-women-legalize-prostitution/ https://harvardcrcl.org/to-protect-women-legalize-prostituti...

bjourne 6y ago
Ok, perhaps it doesn't make sense to you because you are not an expert in the subject? Your objection is akin to a criminologist claiming that some security feature in the Linux kernel doesn't make much sense to them.
- tartoran 6y ago
  You aren't an expert on the subject either. Not sure what your agenda is but I wish you had some common sense just for a few seconds. Prostitutes will continue their work legally or illegally, there were numerous unsuccessful attempts to stop them. There are n reasons why it's better if the whole sex industry leaves the underground shady world, from workers rights, less abuse, taxation, pensions, healthcare and so on. Let it sink in for a bit, it doesn't have to be written in a paper for you to attempt to make this mental exercise, does it?
  - bjourne 6y ago
    No, I'm not an expert. Therefore I cite studies conducted by people who are experts. The available evidence indicates that legalized prostitution increases sex trafficking. Look at Germany and Netherlands. In both countries the number of victims of sex trafficking grew rapidly after they legalized prostitution. I.e evidence is against you. Stop being wrong. Note that most victims of sex trafficking are also illegal aliens. Thus legalized prostitution doesn't help them since they would also be deported. The main benefactors of legalized prostitution are the Johns who no longer have to suffer a social stigma from purchasing sex.
    - tartoran 6y ago
      You are not an expert but you are also lacking common sense and you’re stuck up on one paper. You can actually find a paper backing up quite a few opposing arguments and there are plenty of papers, if that’s the only type of thing you ingest, to claim that legalizing prostitution would bring a lot of benefits.
      - austincheney 6y ago
        Common sense is an excuse to apply bias when you have nothing else to provide. Likewise the word obvious is fully interchangeable with the word oblivious without changing either the context or substance of a statement. Those are the polite and reasoned ways of calling this discourse ignorance or ethnocentricity. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnocentrism https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnocentrism
        tartoran 6y ago
        Ethnocentrism? Really? Based on what?
        austincheney 6y ago
        Based upon your common sense.
        tartoran 6y ago
        You not making any sense. I’ll take it as arrogance this time. I don’t know you enough but I suspect you have some insecurities that you need to deal with
      - bjourne 6y ago
        > You can actually find a paper backing up quite a few opposing arguments and there are plenty of papers, Then find a paper that claims that legalization decreases sex trafficking or shut up.

bjourne 6y ago

Ok, perhaps it doesn't make sense to you because you are not an expert in the subject? Your objection is akin to a criminologist claiming that some security feature in the Linux kernel doesn't make much sense to them.

tartoran 6y ago
You aren't an expert on the subject either. Not sure what your agenda is but I wish you had some common sense just for a few seconds. Prostitutes will continue their work legally or illegally, there were numerous unsuccessful attempts to stop them. There are n reasons why it's better if the whole sex industry leaves the underground shady world, from workers rights, less abuse, taxation, pensions, healthcare and so on. Let it sink in for a bit, it doesn't have to be written in a paper for you to attempt to make this mental exercise, does it?
- bjourne 6y ago
  No, I'm not an expert. Therefore I cite studies conducted by people who are experts. The available evidence indicates that legalized prostitution increases sex trafficking. Look at Germany and Netherlands. In both countries the number of victims of sex trafficking grew rapidly after they legalized prostitution. I.e evidence is against you. Stop being wrong. Note that most victims of sex trafficking are also illegal aliens. Thus legalized prostitution doesn't help them since they would also be deported. The main benefactors of legalized prostitution are the Johns who no longer have to suffer a social stigma from purchasing sex.
  - tartoran 6y ago
    You are not an expert but you are also lacking common sense and you’re stuck up on one paper. You can actually find a paper backing up quite a few opposing arguments and there are plenty of papers, if that’s the only type of thing you ingest, to claim that legalizing prostitution would bring a lot of benefits.
    - austincheney 6y ago
      Common sense is an excuse to apply bias when you have nothing else to provide. Likewise the word obvious is fully interchangeable with the word oblivious without changing either the context or substance of a statement. Those are the polite and reasoned ways of calling this discourse ignorance or ethnocentricity. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnocentrism https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnocentrism
      - tartoran 6y ago
        Ethnocentrism? Really? Based on what?
        austincheney 6y ago
        Based upon your common sense.
        tartoran 6y ago
        You not making any sense. I’ll take it as arrogance this time. I don’t know you enough but I suspect you have some insecurities that you need to deal with
    - bjourne 6y ago
      > You can actually find a paper backing up quite a few opposing arguments and there are plenty of papers, Then find a paper that claims that legalization decreases sex trafficking or shut up.