> Even on a wet cold night in stoke. Are there any others? Stoke and Port Vale are unlikely to be winning the premier any time soon, but that's not the point

> Even on a wet cold night in stoke. Are there any others? Stoke and Port Vale are unlikely to be winning the premier any time soon, but that's not the point - Stoke thrashed Liverpool 6-1 in 2015, and that's Football. I'm no fan, and If I were I'd support wolves, but I can appreciate that win will have made Stoke fans delighted. From reading this hn discussion (the only place I've seen ESL defended), it seems that fans of the American style system (which yougov put as less than 10%) think that winning at the end of the season is all that matters.