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Realistically, if all existing diplomas were invalidated and the entire system of diploma-granting were to be stripped away from educational institutions, an eq

Realistically, if all existing diplomas were invalidated and the entire system of diploma-granting were to be stripped away from educational institutions, an equivalent would quickly be re-established by the free market - and it would probably resemble Proctorio. > So my question is: who are we trying to solve the problem for? What is the expected outcome, knowing that there will always be people who "cheat" their way through life too? For one thing, all the harm that incompetent professionals can cause - and in a moddern society, the scope of that is not inconsiderable - in fact, Proctorio is probably an example. Let's not lose focus on the real problem here, which is Proctorio being an aggressive vendor of garbage.

AnIdiotOnTheNet 6y ago
Is there a correlation between having a degree and competence? Because my experience is that there very much isn't. I would go so far as to say that the information age has made educational material so widely and easily available that the only value universities provide is signaling and wealth/class filtering.
- lotsofpulp 6y ago
  Could engineers that cheated their way through college have developed microprocessors? Built bridges and skyscrapers? Achieved space travel? Perhaps there is value in knowing someone has been able to work in a team setting and complete given tasks.
  - necovek 6y ago
    They certainly could. For instance, many of the still surviving bridges in Europe were built way before university degrees in architecture. I'll consider them cheaters because they didn't even attend a University! ;) But there is another way to look at it: can all non-cheating students build bridges, design microprocessors or design rockets? I can give you an affirmative no.
bryanrasmussen 6y ago
> if all existing diplomas were invalidated and the entire system of diploma-granting were to be stripped away from educational institutions, an equivalent would quickly be re-established by the free market - and it would probably resemble Proctorio. coming soon to a tech interview near you.

AnIdiotOnTheNet 6y ago

Is there a correlation between having a degree and competence? Because my experience is that there very much isn't. I would go so far as to say that the information age has made educational material so widely and easily available that the only value universities provide is signaling and wealth/class filtering.

lotsofpulp 6y ago
Could engineers that cheated their way through college have developed microprocessors? Built bridges and skyscrapers? Achieved space travel? Perhaps there is value in knowing someone has been able to work in a team setting and complete given tasks.
- necovek 6y ago
  They certainly could. For instance, many of the still surviving bridges in Europe were built way before university degrees in architecture. I'll consider them cheaters because they didn't even attend a University! ;) But there is another way to look at it: can all non-cheating students build bridges, design microprocessors or design rockets? I can give you an affirmative no.

bryanrasmussen 6y ago

> if all existing diplomas were invalidated and the entire system of diploma-granting were to be stripped away from educational institutions, an equivalent would quickly be re-established by the free market - and it would probably resemble Proctorio. coming soon to a tech interview near you.