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> Flash video is already being replaced by HTML5 video, for example Care to provide some numbers to back that up? How many of Youtube's, Vimeo's and other big

> Flash video is already being replaced by HTML5 video, for example Care to provide some numbers to back that up? How many of Youtube's, Vimeo's and other big video websites are using an HTML5 player? And please don't say that's because of H264 video penetration over FLV. Because H264 video (which is sometimes confused with "html5" video) has been the standard for quality Flash video for a few years already, and a 100% penetration of H264 over FLV would have no correlation to the penetration of "Flash video" versus "HTML5 video".

saulrh 15y ago
They may not default to it, but Youtube[1], Vimeo[2], and a few other places have HTML5 players available; I have them all turned on. HTML5 video is still in beta, but it's somewhat easier to build into a page than Flash and its development environment doesn't cost $500. The fact that it edged into Flash's market in the first place says something. [1]: http://www.youtube.com/html5 http://www.youtube.com/html5 [2]: http://vimeo.com/blog:391 http://vimeo.com/blog:391
- whatever_dude 15y ago
  The fact that they're available, and you have voluntarily opted in, doesn't mean it's being replaced. Unless your count your household as a sole representative of the web in general. Still waiting for facts and figures.
  - saulrh 15y ago
    My point is that the two largest video distributors both provide and maintain html5 players. The fact that they're putting in so much effort means that there is demand for HTML5 video and that people are actually using it. Furthermore, Apple mobile browsers don't have Flash, and their browser market share is steadily increasing. I don't have any hard figures, but even that says something; Adobe has every reason to release stats that support Flash, which suggests that it those stats don't exist. Either way, HTML5 video adoption is certainly not descreasing, and there are several signs that it is increasing.

saulrh 15y ago

They may not default to it, but Youtube[1], Vimeo[2], and a few other places have HTML5 players available; I have them all turned on. HTML5 video is still in beta, but it's somewhat easier to build into a page than Flash and its development environment doesn't cost $500. The fact that it edged into Flash's market in the first place says something. [1]: http://www.youtube.com/html5 http://www.youtube.com/html5 [2]: http://vimeo.com/blog:391 http://vimeo.com/blog:391

whatever_dude 15y ago
The fact that they're available, and you have voluntarily opted in, doesn't mean it's being replaced. Unless your count your household as a sole representative of the web in general. Still waiting for facts and figures.
- saulrh 15y ago
  My point is that the two largest video distributors both provide and maintain html5 players. The fact that they're putting in so much effort means that there is demand for HTML5 video and that people are actually using it. Furthermore, Apple mobile browsers don't have Flash, and their browser market share is steadily increasing. I don't have any hard figures, but even that says something; Adobe has every reason to release stats that support Flash, which suggests that it those stats don't exist. Either way, HTML5 video adoption is certainly not descreasing, and there are several signs that it is increasing.