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> divide pretty neatly along partisan and class lines In America. The rest of the civilised world decided on this a long time ago. It's not so much a "partisa
by marcus_holmes 6y ago
> divide pretty neatly along partisan and class lines
In America. The rest of the civilised world decided on this a long time ago.
It's not so much a "partisan and class" divide, it's "right-wing Americans vs the rest of Western Civilisation"
Even right-wingers in the UK and Europe do not want to bring back capital punishment [0]
[0] Obviously there are some wingnuts who do, but there's not to my knowledge a serious right-wing political party that has a policy of bringing back capital punishment. Corporal punishment, maybe.
- tompccs 6y ago49% of Brits would support the reintroduction of the death penalty. I suspect that the same is true across Europe and that you are living in a bubble. [0] [0] https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/trackers/should-the-death-penalty-be-reintroduced-for-the-murder-of-a-child https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/trackers/should-the-dea...
- neilwilson 6y agoRight up to the point where you explain what that means in practice. As ever with polls it depends how you frame the question.
- reedf1 6y agoAnd only recently this number dropped below 50%! Wow!
- marcus_holmes 6y ago"for the murder of a child" - this isn't about the death penalty. This is a "won't someone please think about the children" dog whistle to the "murder all the pedos" brigade. Again, no-one is seriously suggesting bringing it back. My bubble is secure.
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- ruph123 6y ago> 49% of Brits would support the reintroduction of the death penalty ... for murdering a child. You forgot that part didn’t you? If you pull up the poll if death penalty should be reintroduced for all murderers only 32% are in support [0]. Please don’t pick and choose sources to make an argument which wasn’t even captured by the source. Also please don’t extrapolate to other countries like that. Us Europeans left the death Penalty behind a long time ago. This is not a thing anymore. [0]: https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/trackers/should-the-death-penalty-be-reintroduced-in-all-cases-of-murder https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/trackers/should-the-dea...
- viklove 6y agoUs Americans left behind the death penalty as well, so you are being a bit nationalistic (racist?). The death penalty is against the law in nearly 1/2 of US states. Even in the states where it is "legal," many have not carried out the procedure in several decades. They simply reserve the right to do so in the case where a child is murdered. > The rest of the civilised world decided on this a long time ago. But please, go on continuing to believe Europeans are superior to the rest of the world. I remember that working out really well for you guys back in the 1930s.
- ruph123 6y ago> But please, go on continuing to believe Europeans are superior to the rest of the world. I remember that working out really well for you guys back in the 1930s. That is unnecessarily snarky. The comment I was replying to was suggesting that basically the UK and the other Europeans would happily welcome back the death penality. Which is not true. I only said that "we" - the strawman used by gp - left it behind and made no statement about other countries. You are the one getting all nationalistic.
- dang 6y agoPlease don't do this, no matter how provocative another comment was. The proper response is to flag it and ignore it—then the provocation fizzles out, as it should. The site guidelines put it this way: "Don't feed egregious comments by replying; flag them instead." That's our euphemistic recoding of "Please don't feed the trolls." I realize this is not so easy when you belong to a group that's being put down, but we all need to build up our tolerance to that kind of thing, since the alternative is to have it dominate discussion and that would make everything worse. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- jeswin 6y ago> In America. The rest of the civilised world decided on this a long time ago. You ended up calling half the world's population "uncivilized".
- marcus_holmes 6y agotrue. good point. poor choice of words. my apologies.
- maxerickson 6y agoThere's some variation inside the US. Michigan abolished the death penalty for all crimes other than treason in 1847 (It was abolished for treason in 1967, with no one having been executed).
- dang 6y agoPlease omit nationalistic flamebait and political swipes from your posts here. They just make things worse. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26900759 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26900759.
- marcus_holmes 6y agomy apologies. I obviously failed to communicate my point clearly enough and unintentionally created flamebait. Thanks for being an excellent mod :)
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