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I think it's more likely that punishing women is politically unpopular whereas punishing men is fine or desirable. Especially because women involved in prostit

I think it's more likely that punishing women is politically unpopular whereas punishing men is fine or desirable. Especially because women involved in prostitution may be especially vulnerable (poor, immigrant, drug addict, etc).

krapp 6y ago
Punishing women, especially women in the sex trades or involved in sexual scandal, has never been unpopular in any society at any time in human history.
- xenihn 6y ago
  You can say this about literally any group that wasn't classified with elite status, like royalty or clergy. Replace "women" with "men" in your post, and it's still just as true.
  - krapp 6y ago
    >Replace "women" with "men" in your post, and it's still just as true. No, you're either attempting a low-effort troll or you have a profound misunderstanding of history. Men have almost always been classified with elite status compared to women in most societies. The entirety of Western civilization is founded under religions that teach a Male God created Man (male, not collective humanity) in His image and that women were created to serve men and obey them, and that the weakness of women is the source of all of the world's evils, and the cultures and legal systems which emerged have often reflected and enforced that patriarchal bias. For most of history, women were basically the property of their fathers, then traded for dowry to become the property of their husbands. They couldn't own property, they couldn't vote, they could be stoned to death for disobeying their husbands.
    - xenihn 6y ago
      >For most of history, women were basically the property of their fathers, then traded for dowry to become the property of their husbands. They couldn't own property, they couldn't vote, they could be stoned to death for disobeying their husbands. For most of history, both men and women in any society couldn't do any of the things you just described. The majority of people in any society, of both genders, have belonged to the lower classes. This is still true today, but you have far more rights as a lower class person today than you would have 200 years ago. You're viewing history solely from the perspective of the upper classes (which includes the middle class).
- ALittleLight 6y ago
  Punishing women is currently unpopular. For example, women get less punishment for the same crimes compared to men. I expect that punishing women has always been unpopular as women tend to be seen as needing protection or vulnerable and men tend to want to protect them.
dang 6y ago
Please don't take HN threads into gender flamewar hell. It's against the site guidelines, and we're generally trying to stay out of hell. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

krapp 6y ago

Punishing women, especially women in the sex trades or involved in sexual scandal, has never been unpopular in any society at any time in human history.

xenihn 6y ago
You can say this about literally any group that wasn't classified with elite status, like royalty or clergy. Replace "women" with "men" in your post, and it's still just as true.
- krapp 6y ago
  >Replace "women" with "men" in your post, and it's still just as true. No, you're either attempting a low-effort troll or you have a profound misunderstanding of history. Men have almost always been classified with elite status compared to women in most societies. The entirety of Western civilization is founded under religions that teach a Male God created Man (male, not collective humanity) in His image and that women were created to serve men and obey them, and that the weakness of women is the source of all of the world's evils, and the cultures and legal systems which emerged have often reflected and enforced that patriarchal bias. For most of history, women were basically the property of their fathers, then traded for dowry to become the property of their husbands. They couldn't own property, they couldn't vote, they could be stoned to death for disobeying their husbands.
  - xenihn 6y ago
    >For most of history, women were basically the property of their fathers, then traded for dowry to become the property of their husbands. They couldn't own property, they couldn't vote, they could be stoned to death for disobeying their husbands. For most of history, both men and women in any society couldn't do any of the things you just described. The majority of people in any society, of both genders, have belonged to the lower classes. This is still true today, but you have far more rights as a lower class person today than you would have 200 years ago. You're viewing history solely from the perspective of the upper classes (which includes the middle class).
ALittleLight 6y ago
Punishing women is currently unpopular. For example, women get less punishment for the same crimes compared to men. I expect that punishing women has always been unpopular as women tend to be seen as needing protection or vulnerable and men tend to want to protect them.

dang 6y ago

Please don't take HN threads into gender flamewar hell. It's against the site guidelines, and we're generally trying to stay out of hell. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html