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I see the Google hate on HN is strong enough that an article that just regurgitates the contents of a few articles and blog posts can be upvoted to #1 in short

I see the Google hate on HN is strong enough that an article that just regurgitates the contents of a few articles and blog posts can be upvoted to #1 in short order.

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jeffbee 6y ago
The blog post actually just regurgitates HN comments, and now people are going to comment on that. The ouroboros has been perfected.
- 0goel0 6y ago
  love to learn from the brightest minds on the internet
dilyevsky 6y ago
They made that bed... I’m sure there are more original stories to be told, people just upvote based on their personal experience
- ghayes 6y ago
  The issue here is that the majority of criticisms apply to Google products and services _other than_ GCP. By and large, many commenters here (myself included) have had very good experiences with GCP. Less so with Google Reader.
  - dilyevsky 6y ago
    A fish rots from the head down. I find it hard to believe same dynamics won’t make it down the cloud org given enough time
    - cocoland2 6y ago
      My experience with GCP has been quite small , most of which have been with GKE and I find that to be good! What i hate though is more about the company , is what they project they are vs what they are https://theintercept.com/2018/05/31/google-leaked-emails-drone-ai-pentagon-lucrative/ https://theintercept.com/2018/05/31/google-leaked-emails-dro... ``` I don’t know what would happen if the media starts picking up a theme that Google is secretly building AI weapons or AI technologies to enable weapons for the Defense industry,” she continued. “Google Cloud has been building our theme on Democratizing AI in 2017, and Diane and I have been talking about Humanistic AI for enterprise. I’d be super careful to protect these very positive images. ``` Not being judgemental about if defense is right or wrong , but its fair to say we are in the running for it. What is not okay is "we care for humanity and freedom of speech" and then do backchannel discussions on how dissent can be quelled with government agencies. So to me distrust is for the company possibly and probably not so much on the reliability of its services
realityIsntHere 6y ago
And the odd thing is that Google has been significantly better for consumers than other FAANG companies. Apple has historically been anti consumer and anti developer with a huge marketing budget to wash it. Facebook intentionally makes us sad. M$ and their anti competitive practices should be well known.
- pm90 6y ago
  Google owns YouTube.
- nemothekid 6y ago
  >Apple has historically been anti consumer What? Apple has been pro-consumer to the detriment of everyone else. Developers are still screaming that they aren't allowed to install malware on my iphone.
  - ThatPlayer 6y ago
    That works both ways though: I'm not allowed to install anything I want on my phone, which is anti-consumer.
  - nikanj 6y ago
    And FBI is still upset that Apple won't install a back door for them.
    - realityIsntHere 6y ago
      But they will let Russia. And bend to china.
      - Nevermark 6y ago
        "Let" Russia? I am pretty sure that Russia is the one firmly in charge of that decision, not Apple. It isn't inconsistent to push back on government overreach where it is legal to do so, but conform where they have no other legal choice except dropping an entire market. Or do you propose another solution?
johncena33 6y ago
There's definitely some voting manipulation going on on HN last few years. At the same time number of irrelvant or barely relevant negative comments with no insight sky-rocketed. This trend coincided with the appointment of new mod dang. I guess the current mod is trying to make HN more popular and using the age-old outrage playbook to get to that end.

I see the Google hate on HN is strong enough that an article that just regurgitates the contents of a few articles and blog posts can be upvoted to #1 in short order.

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jeffbee 6y ago

The blog post actually just regurgitates HN comments, and now people are going to comment on that. The ouroboros has been perfected.

0goel0 6y ago
love to learn from the brightest minds on the internet

dilyevsky 6y ago

They made that bed... I’m sure there are more original stories to be told, people just upvote based on their personal experience

ghayes 6y ago
The issue here is that the majority of criticisms apply to Google products and services _other than_ GCP. By and large, many commenters here (myself included) have had very good experiences with GCP. Less so with Google Reader.
- dilyevsky 6y ago
  A fish rots from the head down. I find it hard to believe same dynamics won’t make it down the cloud org given enough time
  - cocoland2 6y ago
    My experience with GCP has been quite small , most of which have been with GKE and I find that to be good! What i hate though is more about the company , is what they project they are vs what they are https://theintercept.com/2018/05/31/google-leaked-emails-drone-ai-pentagon-lucrative/ https://theintercept.com/2018/05/31/google-leaked-emails-dro... ``` I don’t know what would happen if the media starts picking up a theme that Google is secretly building AI weapons or AI technologies to enable weapons for the Defense industry,” she continued. “Google Cloud has been building our theme on Democratizing AI in 2017, and Diane and I have been talking about Humanistic AI for enterprise. I’d be super careful to protect these very positive images. ``` Not being judgemental about if defense is right or wrong , but its fair to say we are in the running for it. What is not okay is "we care for humanity and freedom of speech" and then do backchannel discussions on how dissent can be quelled with government agencies. So to me distrust is for the company possibly and probably not so much on the reliability of its services

realityIsntHere 6y ago

And the odd thing is that Google has been significantly better for consumers than other FAANG companies. Apple has historically been anti consumer and anti developer with a huge marketing budget to wash it. Facebook intentionally makes us sad. M$ and their anti competitive practices should be well known.

pm90 6y ago
Google owns YouTube.
nemothekid 6y ago
>Apple has historically been anti consumer What? Apple has been pro-consumer to the detriment of everyone else. Developers are still screaming that they aren't allowed to install malware on my iphone.
- ThatPlayer 6y ago
  That works both ways though: I'm not allowed to install anything I want on my phone, which is anti-consumer.
- nikanj 6y ago
  And FBI is still upset that Apple won't install a back door for them.
  - realityIsntHere 6y ago
    But they will let Russia. And bend to china.
    - Nevermark 6y ago
      "Let" Russia? I am pretty sure that Russia is the one firmly in charge of that decision, not Apple. It isn't inconsistent to push back on government overreach where it is legal to do so, but conform where they have no other legal choice except dropping an entire market. Or do you propose another solution?

johncena33 6y ago

There's definitely some voting manipulation going on on HN last few years. At the same time number of irrelvant or barely relevant negative comments with no insight sky-rocketed. This trend coincided with the appointment of new mod dang. I guess the current mod is trying to make HN more popular and using the age-old outrage playbook to get to that end.