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I don't know why, but somehow I am not too bothered by the research itself. Sure, in retrospect, it does not sounds like it was the right thing to do (or the ri
by g42gregory 6y ago
I don't know why, but somehow I am not too bothered by the research itself. Sure, in retrospect, it does not sounds like it was the right thing to do (or the right way to do). But, you know, stuff happens.
Instead, what bothered me immensely is the way the PhD student handled that interaction: immediately claiming "bias", "slander", playing "victim", etc... I don't know if he learned such a way to communicate from his professors, other students at the CS&E department, or UMN environment in general, but it's very bothersome to me. Such way to communicate precludes constructive (and perhaps heated) exchange of ideas. I think people like that should be nowhere near important CS/EE projects.
- dshpala 6y agoMaybe that was in line with the "research"? I think this can be an interesting topic in itself, how those trigger words and victim playing can get you through code reviews faster. It's certainly true in my company...
- g42gregory 6y agoIt looks like Linux kernel has passed the test!
- kfajdsl 6y agoI think many of the responses from Linus over the years shows that Linux never needed that test ;)
- oh_sigh 6y agoIt's entirely possible that Aditya is actually just working on a static analysis tool, it is buggy, and he wasn't aware of the other research his advisor does. If that is the case, I can kind of understand his response. I would be pretty upset if I knew I was just trying to submit some honest(if buggy) patches, but was accused of being a scoundrel because of something that didn't even involve me. Of course, it's also possible that he is just gaslighting Greg and actually was doing the same kind of "research" as other people did before. I think that UMN will get to the bottom of it - it will be pretty clear to them what kind of research he was doing, and whether he represented himself honestly.
- gomijacogeo 6y agoThere does appear to be a static analysis tool. https://www-users.cs.umn.edu/~kjlu/papers/eecatch.pdf?fbclid=IwAR0isr1QLNlofPBDpR1tf8rYUEknEeTHf2VdmIxZZboAmR4-FpCLfbaIYrQ https://www-users.cs.umn.edu/~kjlu/papers/eecatch.pdf?fbclid... Still, given that he is 4+ years into a PhD (after a Masters), and has published on this topic before, his first deflection is "We are not experts in the linux kernel" seems disingenuous - kinda like "Hey guys, I'm not malicious, just not good at my job."
- burnished 6y agoGreg did make it clear that social convention was also violated by delivering a patch, evidently the result of a tool, without stating as such.