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Black Lives Matter protests may affect police violence and murders

14 points by nabla9 6y ago

williesleg 6y ago
Both sides lie, it's all media click bait. Politicians use it to keep everyone polarized. Chris Rock got it right.
conanbatt 6y ago
This is pretty crazy. If true, murder rates are extremely sensitive to public perception of the system. This means that the most rudimentary status-quo thought of protecting the police image as an end of itself is actually the most utilitarian position of all.
- dec0dedab0de 6y ago
  Maybe as faith in the system declines, people are more likely to take matters into their own hands. So some of the murders would have previously been police killings, or arrests.
  - bingbong70 6y ago
    I think this has some truth to it. People that can't trust the criminal justice system handle problems outside of the system and I don't think it's a negligible % of total murders. Community justice takes over and skews overall crime data for certain communities.
- nabla9 6y ago
  I don't think this is the most likely explanation. The Article points out various explanations. The impact on murders and crime seems to be short lived, compared to police homicides. That's also good sign.
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dingusthemingus 6y ago
Roland Fryer mentioned this a while ago while discussing his paper on racial dispartiies in police use of force last year in a YT interview, he predicted an increase of felonies (100k's of felonies including 60k additional shootings i beleive were the numbers he used), due to 2020 politicans endorsing anti-police protests + large protests. a big correlation for the uptick in crime he argued was related to politicans endorsing protesting controvercial police incidents + protests, which historically is assosciated with significant sharp upticks in crime. https://scholar.harvard.edu/fryer/publications/empirical-analysis-racial-differences-police-use-force https://scholar.harvard.edu/fryer/publications/empirical-ana...

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Black Lives Matter protests may affect police violence and murders

14 points by nabla9 6y ago

williesleg 6y ago
Both sides lie, it's all media click bait. Politicians use it to keep everyone polarized. Chris Rock got it right.
conanbatt 6y ago
This is pretty crazy. If true, murder rates are extremely sensitive to public perception of the system. This means that the most rudimentary status-quo thought of protecting the police image as an end of itself is actually the most utilitarian position of all.
- dec0dedab0de 6y ago
  Maybe as faith in the system declines, people are more likely to take matters into their own hands. So some of the murders would have previously been police killings, or arrests.
  - bingbong70 6y ago
    I think this has some truth to it. People that can't trust the criminal justice system handle problems outside of the system and I don't think it's a negligible % of total murders. Community justice takes over and skews overall crime data for certain communities.
- nabla9 6y ago
  I don't think this is the most likely explanation. The Article points out various explanations. The impact on murders and crime seems to be short lived, compared to police homicides. That's also good sign.
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dingusthemingus 6y ago
Roland Fryer mentioned this a while ago while discussing his paper on racial dispartiies in police use of force last year in a YT interview, he predicted an increase of felonies (100k's of felonies including 60k additional shootings i beleive were the numbers he used), due to 2020 politicans endorsing anti-police protests + large protests. a big correlation for the uptick in crime he argued was related to politicans endorsing protesting controvercial police incidents + protests, which historically is assosciated with significant sharp upticks in crime. https://scholar.harvard.edu/fryer/publications/empirical-analysis-racial-differences-police-use-force https://scholar.harvard.edu/fryer/publications/empirical-ana...