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Hold up, what's your beef with Windows Terminal? I've really been enjoying it!

by sandyarmstrong 5y ago

weakfish 5y ago
Same, it's a joy to use.
swest 5y ago
Agreed! It's the only terminal I can find that both respects my color settings and runs tmux well.
InitialLastName 5y ago
My judgement of Windows Terminal might have been unfair, but it has its annoyances. - Sometimes the preferences just decide to go through the "open as a json file" path - I don't know if it's my settings or what, but in WSL2/Ubuntu 20.04 I keep getting into a state where my background is black but lines fill in white. I've used the same .bashrc for a decade without that issue. - The copy/paste UI is different both from normal Linux interfaces, from CMD, and from the Windows standard. - As far as I can see, no support for USB CDC devices either via WSL2 or through Windows itself. There's no reason I should need PuTTY still to access a usb-serial console.
- sandyarmstrong 5y ago
  Fair criticisms! Personally I'm thrilled to finally have a good terminal experience on Windows. The copy/paste behavior is very comfortable to me, given the similarity to gnome-terminal. And to be honest I never really got comfortable with CMD's behavior. I don't use WSL itself much, so I can't comment on those bugs except to say I hope you find fixes. I've ended up doing a lot of PowerShell for work lately, so I jotted down a guide for myself for getting the terminal to behave the way I like, if it's useful to anyone: https://gist.github.com/sandyarmstrong/8b48d7dd0cb01c63cabc6b7db8d8ac10 https://gist.github.com/sandyarmstrong/8b48d7dd0cb01c63cabc6...
pxc 5y ago
Same. I am not a Windows person and never have been, but Windows Terminal is clearly lovingly maintained and already much, much better than previous terminal emulator offerings for Windows. I don't particularly wish I had it on Linux, but it's already my go-to when I have to use Windows for a bit, and I think it's an impressive piece of software.
- globular-toast 5y ago
  cmder [0] is great. When I was forced to use Windows, a good terminal emulator was the first thing I looked for. The trouble is most Windows users don't know what a terminal emulator is or that anything better is possible. But it has been possible for a long time. [0] https://cmder.net/ https://cmder.net/
  - pxc 5y ago
    Cmder used to be my go-to for the times I had to use Windows before my most recent attempts which came after WSL, PowerShell Core, Windows Terminal, and the whole new ecosystem Microsoft seems to be invested in building around the command line. I don't remember any specific complaints about it except that configuration (if you wanted to customize it— defaults were quite good) options were kinda overwhelming. At the same time, I don't have any interest in going back to it after using Windows Terminal for a while. I'd be curious about your first impressions of Windows Terminal as a more recent cmder user, if you still have a Windows VM lying around.
distances 5y ago
Windows Terminal has a very noticeable lag when typing. To me that makes it completely unusable. I'm using this other default WSL shell app -- I don't actually know what it's called, just says "Ubuntu" for Ubuntu WSL installation.
- 2ion 5y ago
  Instantaneous for me. But I'm already looking forward to running kitty anyhow.

Hold up, what's your beef with Windows Terminal? I've really been enjoying it!

weakfish 5y ago

Same, it's a joy to use.

swest 5y ago

Agreed! It's the only terminal I can find that both respects my color settings and runs tmux well.

InitialLastName 5y ago

My judgement of Windows Terminal might have been unfair, but it has its annoyances. - Sometimes the preferences just decide to go through the "open as a json file" path - I don't know if it's my settings or what, but in WSL2/Ubuntu 20.04 I keep getting into a state where my background is black but lines fill in white. I've used the same .bashrc for a decade without that issue. - The copy/paste UI is different both from normal Linux interfaces, from CMD, and from the Windows standard. - As far as I can see, no support for USB CDC devices either via WSL2 or through Windows itself. There's no reason I should need PuTTY still to access a usb-serial console.

sandyarmstrong 5y ago
Fair criticisms! Personally I'm thrilled to finally have a good terminal experience on Windows. The copy/paste behavior is very comfortable to me, given the similarity to gnome-terminal. And to be honest I never really got comfortable with CMD's behavior. I don't use WSL itself much, so I can't comment on those bugs except to say I hope you find fixes. I've ended up doing a lot of PowerShell for work lately, so I jotted down a guide for myself for getting the terminal to behave the way I like, if it's useful to anyone: https://gist.github.com/sandyarmstrong/8b48d7dd0cb01c63cabc6b7db8d8ac10 https://gist.github.com/sandyarmstrong/8b48d7dd0cb01c63cabc6...

pxc 5y ago

Same. I am not a Windows person and never have been, but Windows Terminal is clearly lovingly maintained and already much, much better than previous terminal emulator offerings for Windows. I don't particularly wish I had it on Linux, but it's already my go-to when I have to use Windows for a bit, and I think it's an impressive piece of software.

globular-toast 5y ago
cmder [0] is great. When I was forced to use Windows, a good terminal emulator was the first thing I looked for. The trouble is most Windows users don't know what a terminal emulator is or that anything better is possible. But it has been possible for a long time. [0] https://cmder.net/ https://cmder.net/
- pxc 5y ago
  Cmder used to be my go-to for the times I had to use Windows before my most recent attempts which came after WSL, PowerShell Core, Windows Terminal, and the whole new ecosystem Microsoft seems to be invested in building around the command line. I don't remember any specific complaints about it except that configuration (if you wanted to customize it— defaults were quite good) options were kinda overwhelming. At the same time, I don't have any interest in going back to it after using Windows Terminal for a while. I'd be curious about your first impressions of Windows Terminal as a more recent cmder user, if you still have a Windows VM lying around.

distances 5y ago

Windows Terminal has a very noticeable lag when typing. To me that makes it completely unusable. I'm using this other default WSL shell app -- I don't actually know what it's called, just says "Ubuntu" for Ubuntu WSL installation.

2ion 5y ago
Instantaneous for me. But I'm already looking forward to running kitty anyhow.