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A slur it is, but I have yet to see a more profound understanding of state of the country. A regime that masterfully plays hate, both from country's own centur
by baybal2 6y ago
A slur it is, but I have yet to see a more profound understanding of state of the country.
A regime that masterfully plays hate, both from country's own century long social self-immolation, and its own spin.
The crux of the issue is very much that Kremlin plays, and direct this bottomless reservoir of insecurity, and anger, but even without it, the country's tragic fate through whole modern history will keep moving it astray.
I telling people again, and again that in 1999 it were people in their completely free will, and sane mind who decided to elect a KGB official as a president.
For there to not to be Putin II, Putin III, Putin IV, etc, this country's deep anguish must be extinguished. How one does it, I don't know. Maybe there will need to be a self-harm reduction course of nation state scale.
- etc-hosts 6y ago>I telling people again, and again that in 1999 it were people in their completely free will, and sane mind who decided to elect a KGB official as a president. Did you know the 1st George Bush used to run the US Central Intelligence Agency?
- cbnotfromthere 6y agoAre you suggesting there was any sort of equivalence between the KGB and the CIA? Are you also suggesting there was any sort of equivalence between a low-level operative vs. a political appointee managing the national agency?
- sudosysgen 6y agoPutin was elected because Yeltsin had ruined the country beforethen and he was the only credible alternative as it was clear the US would never allow the Communists or Socialists to take power. So the only choices left were Yeltsin Yeltsin 2, and Putin. People understandanly chose Putin as Yeltsin's policies were just done ruining millions of lives. It has nothing to do with hate. It has to do with the fact that Russia was in ruins, and that Putin was the only option that wasn't going to be interfered against again. So people voted for Putin. You probably would have done the same.
- dang 6y agoDoing more of what I asked you to stop is no recipe for staying unbanned. I realize you have a lot of experience in that part of the world, and your substantive contributions are welcome here, but outright slurs are just so totally unacceptable that, no matter how much we value your substantive contributions, we are going to have to ban you if you keep it up. Stop it now please.
- baybal2 6y agoI was trying to be as less inflamatory as possible above. If you think it still should not be there, feel free to delete that post. I'd say the original post is tactless in its wording, and is expressly offensive. Even if any point can be drawn from it, it wouldn't still be possible to twist, or rephrase it without still sounding offensively.
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- dandanua 6y agoYou're confusing baybal2 with me. As for me, I understand that my words sound very rough to HN audience. I'll try to be more tactful here. It was hard for me in this case since I'm a Ukrainian who lives in Ukraine. From my perspective, Putin is using exactly the same strategy as Hitler did – fueling hate towards others so it will be much easier to conquer them and kill them with no doubts. My words are not just "slurs". There are facts, like Ilovaisk massacre in 2014 [1], that already confirm what I'm saying. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Ilovaisk#Government_forces_retreat_and_massacre https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Ilovaisk#Government_...