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Completely agree. "Prestigious" American newspapers do so much selective coverage it's insane...most people have absolutely no idea the extent of it. It produce

by jb775 5y ago

Completely agree. "Prestigious" American newspapers do so much selective coverage it's insane...most people have absolutely no idea the extent of it. It produces the result of censorship without needing to actually censor. Just look at the Hunter Biden laptop story for an example -- initially blacked out and denied by American media, blanket rejection of underlying premise of story & suppression of relevant facts, eventual subtle admission on page 10 that everything was true all along. The average person on the left will deny and reject this since the communist American owned media only feeds them stuff they want to believe. Truth hurts sometimes.

chownie 5y ago
This doesn't follow, the laptop story's premise doesn't pass the sniff test at all. A laptop is left with a computer repair salesman for some reason, in Delaware for some reason, and for some reason no contact information is given for the laptop's return, and for some reason the repairman both wanted to and was capable of getting a direct line to Rudy Giuliani who for some reason gave the only copy of the hard drive to the NYT without screening any other news outlets. The repairman goes on to give contradictory statements repeatedly about the origin of the laptop. The FBI acquires the device for investigation into Russian disinformation campaigns.
- throwaway4china 5y ago
  I suggest you read up on the scandal more, you either leave out details willingly or you are severely ignorant of the facts. When you say "for some reason" you are alluding that there is no answer and you're trying to downplay it, you are lying. The laptop was turned in by Hunter because it was waterlogged. He signed the form. When he didn't come back in to get it and the owner noticed the illegal things on it, a copy of the hard drive was first given to the FBI, another was later given to Rudy because nothing was done by the FBI. The emails and photos on the laptop have not been disputed. His business partner has confirmed the emails, and the DKIM of at least one of the emails have been verified.
  - throwaway4china 5y ago
    Nothing I said is false, any of you downvoters want to dispute what I said?
    - amaccuish 5y ago
      No, because when you're so deep, you can't be saved. I'm sorry. I wish you all the best.
      - throwaway4china 5y ago
        Projection. This is scary to you because you're not allowed to know it's true. Your President and his son are corrupt. --- to others in the thread --- > After obtaining a copy of the hard drive, DailyMail.com commissioned top cyber forensics experts Maryman & Associates to analyze its data and determine whether the laptop's contents were real. Company name is listed. You'd have to go ask the cyber-firm they used, any outlet could verify it and write a story debunking it if they wanted. Something tells me they don't want to because they know it's true. An email from the laptop has been DKIM validated, here's the repo: https://github.com/robertdavidgraham/hunter-dkim https://github.com/robertdavidgraham/hunter-dkim What are you suggesting was made up?
      - jb775 5y ago
        He literally presented all facts and hard evidence, but your brain somehow rejected all that, offered no response to anything he presented, and instead came up with this completely unintelligent response. You should seriously reanalyze how you reach conclusions and look up what cognitive dissonance is.
  - barbacoa 5y ago
    Ironically, DM did enough journalistic leg work that they managed to get their hands on a copy of Hunter Biden's hard drive and had "forensic expert" examine it. Something the rest of the "reputable" media couldn't do. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9445105/What-Hunter-Biden-left-tell-memoir-revealed.html https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9445105/What-Hunter...
- Tycho 5y ago
  What does it matter? The information on the laptop is still subject to all the normal procedures of journalism: follow-up, look for corroboration, seek confirmation, ask questions, look for evidence tampering, and so on. Instead, the story was buried and ignored. It boggles my mind that anyone could defend this as proper behaviour by the press.
  - arp242 5y ago
    > The information on the laptop is still subject to all the normal procedures of journalism: follow-up, look for corroboration, seek confirmation, ask questions And The New York Post did none of this. There are plenty of other articles written by about it by almost every news outlet[1]; it was never "buried". The difference was they treated the suspicious weird story as exactly that, instead of immediately rushing to conclusions. https://duckduckgo.com/?q=hunter+biden+laptop https://duckduckgo.com/?q=hunter+biden+laptop
    - Tycho 5y ago
      The laptop is/was real. Are you actually maintaining that it is fake?
      - barbacoa 5y ago
        We live in a world of subjective truths. "Hunter Biden laptop is fake" is to the left what "wide spread voter fraud" is to the right. People are too emotionally invested to have adult conversation on these topics.
        michaelmrose 5y ago
        There is ample evidence of a fair election I have seen zero verification that the laptop belonged to hunter Biden in the first place and a lot of reasons to believe that the story is largely fabricated. Specifically its entirely sure that the laptop exists. It's possible it contains some actual stolen data in the same way that a lot of celebrities nudes are now out there due to a vulnerability in icloud. Its not clear to ME that the physical device ever belonged to Hunter Biden or that it contains anything like what they claim it contains. The single source of truth is massively tainted because the source is a lying scumbag with zero integrity. If you conclude otherwise I conclude its because its the answer you wish were true.
- kbutler 5y ago
  Adam Schiff's "Russian disinformation campaign" assertion was denied by the director of national intelligence, and yet it persists. https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/john-ratcliffe-rejects-adam-schiff-claims-that-hunter-biden-laptop-is-part-of-russian-disinformation-operation https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/john-ratcliffe-rejec... “This is not part of some Russian disinformation campaign. The intelligence community has not been involved with Hunter Biden’s laptop. Hunter Biden is a U.S. person, and he would be subject to any investigation regarding fraud, or corruption would be rightfully the jurisdiction of the FBI. So, the FBI has had possession of this, and what I can say without commenting on any investigation that they may have in corruption or fraud — is to say that their investigation does not center around Russian disinformation, and the intelligence community is playing no role with respect to that,” Ratcliffe said. “Adam Schiff saying that this is part of some Russian disinformation campaign and that the IC has assessed that or believes that is simply not true, so I appreciate the opportunity to be able to tell the American people that that is the case."

by jb775 5y ago

chownie 5y ago

This doesn't follow, the laptop story's premise doesn't pass the sniff test at all. A laptop is left with a computer repair salesman for some reason, in Delaware for some reason, and for some reason no contact information is given for the laptop's return, and for some reason the repairman both wanted to and was capable of getting a direct line to Rudy Giuliani who for some reason gave the only copy of the hard drive to the NYT without screening any other news outlets. The repairman goes on to give contradictory statements repeatedly about the origin of the laptop. The FBI acquires the device for investigation into Russian disinformation campaigns.

throwaway4china 5y ago
I suggest you read up on the scandal more, you either leave out details willingly or you are severely ignorant of the facts. When you say "for some reason" you are alluding that there is no answer and you're trying to downplay it, you are lying. The laptop was turned in by Hunter because it was waterlogged. He signed the form. When he didn't come back in to get it and the owner noticed the illegal things on it, a copy of the hard drive was first given to the FBI, another was later given to Rudy because nothing was done by the FBI. The emails and photos on the laptop have not been disputed. His business partner has confirmed the emails, and the DKIM of at least one of the emails have been verified.
- throwaway4china 5y ago
  Nothing I said is false, any of you downvoters want to dispute what I said?
  - amaccuish 5y ago
    No, because when you're so deep, you can't be saved. I'm sorry. I wish you all the best.
    - throwaway4china 5y ago
      Projection. This is scary to you because you're not allowed to know it's true. Your President and his son are corrupt. --- to others in the thread --- > After obtaining a copy of the hard drive, DailyMail.com commissioned top cyber forensics experts Maryman & Associates to analyze its data and determine whether the laptop's contents were real. Company name is listed. You'd have to go ask the cyber-firm they used, any outlet could verify it and write a story debunking it if they wanted. Something tells me they don't want to because they know it's true. An email from the laptop has been DKIM validated, here's the repo: https://github.com/robertdavidgraham/hunter-dkim https://github.com/robertdavidgraham/hunter-dkim What are you suggesting was made up?
    - jb775 5y ago
      He literally presented all facts and hard evidence, but your brain somehow rejected all that, offered no response to anything he presented, and instead came up with this completely unintelligent response. You should seriously reanalyze how you reach conclusions and look up what cognitive dissonance is.
- barbacoa 5y ago
  Ironically, DM did enough journalistic leg work that they managed to get their hands on a copy of Hunter Biden's hard drive and had "forensic expert" examine it. Something the rest of the "reputable" media couldn't do. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9445105/What-Hunter-Biden-left-tell-memoir-revealed.html https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9445105/What-Hunter...
Tycho 5y ago
What does it matter? The information on the laptop is still subject to all the normal procedures of journalism: follow-up, look for corroboration, seek confirmation, ask questions, look for evidence tampering, and so on. Instead, the story was buried and ignored. It boggles my mind that anyone could defend this as proper behaviour by the press.
- arp242 5y ago
  > The information on the laptop is still subject to all the normal procedures of journalism: follow-up, look for corroboration, seek confirmation, ask questions And The New York Post did none of this. There are plenty of other articles written by about it by almost every news outlet[1]; it was never "buried". The difference was they treated the suspicious weird story as exactly that, instead of immediately rushing to conclusions. https://duckduckgo.com/?q=hunter+biden+laptop https://duckduckgo.com/?q=hunter+biden+laptop
  - Tycho 5y ago
    The laptop is/was real. Are you actually maintaining that it is fake?
    - barbacoa 5y ago
      We live in a world of subjective truths. "Hunter Biden laptop is fake" is to the left what "wide spread voter fraud" is to the right. People are too emotionally invested to have adult conversation on these topics.
      - michaelmrose 5y ago
        There is ample evidence of a fair election I have seen zero verification that the laptop belonged to hunter Biden in the first place and a lot of reasons to believe that the story is largely fabricated. Specifically its entirely sure that the laptop exists. It's possible it contains some actual stolen data in the same way that a lot of celebrities nudes are now out there due to a vulnerability in icloud. Its not clear to ME that the physical device ever belonged to Hunter Biden or that it contains anything like what they claim it contains. The single source of truth is massively tainted because the source is a lying scumbag with zero integrity. If you conclude otherwise I conclude its because its the answer you wish were true.
kbutler 5y ago
Adam Schiff's "Russian disinformation campaign" assertion was denied by the director of national intelligence, and yet it persists. https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/john-ratcliffe-rejects-adam-schiff-claims-that-hunter-biden-laptop-is-part-of-russian-disinformation-operation https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/john-ratcliffe-rejec... “This is not part of some Russian disinformation campaign. The intelligence community has not been involved with Hunter Biden’s laptop. Hunter Biden is a U.S. person, and he would be subject to any investigation regarding fraud, or corruption would be rightfully the jurisdiction of the FBI. So, the FBI has had possession of this, and what I can say without commenting on any investigation that they may have in corruption or fraud — is to say that their investigation does not center around Russian disinformation, and the intelligence community is playing no role with respect to that,” Ratcliffe said. “Adam Schiff saying that this is part of some Russian disinformation campaign and that the IC has assessed that or believes that is simply not true, so I appreciate the opportunity to be able to tell the American people that that is the case."