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> tried it for 4 years and that's just not the case. So just fired up a VM with a clean install of Ubuntu. No VSCode, No Rider. > wget https://packages.micro

> tried it for 4 years and that's just not the case. So just fired up a VM with a clean install of Ubuntu. No VSCode, No Rider. > wget https://packages.microsoft.com/config/ubuntu/20.10/packages-microsoft-prod.deb https://packages.microsoft.com/config/ubuntu/20.10/packages-... -O packages-microsoft-prod.deb > sudo dpkg -i packages-microsoft-prod.deb > sudo apt update && sudo apt install apt-transport-https dotnet-sdk-5.0 -y > mkdir test > cd test > dotnet new console --output sample1 > dotnet run --project sample1 This is all on the MS Docs website for getting started. So I'm really not sure what part you find difficult. Getting hello world is no more difficult than me getting hello world working for golang, nodejs, python. > For me, even simple things like getting C# aliases working was a pain. Aliases for what?!? EDIT: Simplified the commands cos I can't format in comments.

VadimPR 6y ago
Yeah, of course, now try to build a real world application with it. Aliases: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/csharp/language-reference/keywords/extern-alias https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/csharp/language-refe.... Support for those was only added in the last year or so to the dotnet/nuget/roslyn/whatever it is needed things to make it work. Microsoft's own documentation only documents how to use it for Visual Studio: too bad if you're using another IDE or the command line like you did above.
- philliphaydon 6y ago
  Using aliases have existed for like ever. So I guess you’re trying to use extern aliases which are super rare to ever need so still don’t know what you’re struggling with. In terms of building a real world application. What are you struggling with? The code is no different regardless of IDE you use. VSCode, Visual Studio, and Rider all have a debugger and can step through code. Right now it sounds like you’re just trying to make .net sound bad.

VadimPR 6y ago

Yeah, of course, now try to build a real world application with it. Aliases: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/csharp/language-reference/keywords/extern-alias https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/csharp/language-refe.... Support for those was only added in the last year or so to the dotnet/nuget/roslyn/whatever it is needed things to make it work. Microsoft's own documentation only documents how to use it for Visual Studio: too bad if you're using another IDE or the command line like you did above.

philliphaydon 6y ago
Using aliases have existed for like ever. So I guess you’re trying to use extern aliases which are super rare to ever need so still don’t know what you’re struggling with. In terms of building a real world application. What are you struggling with? The code is no different regardless of IDE you use. VSCode, Visual Studio, and Rider all have a debugger and can step through code. Right now it sounds like you’re just trying to make .net sound bad.