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How would the lockdowns have made it worse? Could they have produced the exponential growth in cases and deaths that are currently observed in the official data

by mrow84 5y ago

How would the lockdowns have made it worse? Could they have produced the exponential growth in cases and deaths that are currently observed in the official data?

boyadjian 5y ago
I quote qart: "Lockdowns hurt poor people very badly; they need to earn to survive."
- mrow84 5y ago
  The title of the piece is "‘It is much worse this time’: India’s devastating second wave". Given that the discussion is of the exponential increases in both cases and deaths, it seems clear that the "it" in the title refers to "the pandemic", not "life in general". My response followed this interpretation, despite the wording of your questions - clearly I should have been more explicit: "How would the lockdowns have made the pandemic worse?"
  - boyadjian 5y ago
    I do not say that the lockdowns make the pandemic worse, I say that the lockdowns make life of people worse. The mass media are making a great confusion, between "pandemic" and "life in general", and so do people, and that's what I am specifically criticizing.
    - mrow84 5y ago
      You are certainly right, the lockdowns do make the lives of most people worse, some significantly more so than others. The pandemic, however, directly threatens people's lives. There have been 33,815 confirmed covid deaths in India since the start of the year, and 3 million around the world since the beginning of the pandemic. I think it is unrealistic to suggest that there have been anything remotely like that number attributable to lockdown over those timeframes.
collyw 5y ago
One theory is about relative movement of old and young. Normal situation, young heathy people move around a lot more than the elderly, contract the virus get immune. With lockdown everyone is restricted and old and young go to the supermarket and back. As such the elderly are exposed at a higher rate before any level of herd immunity is reached.

by mrow84 5y ago

How would the lockdowns have made it worse? Could they have produced the exponential growth in cases and deaths that are currently observed in the official data?

boyadjian 5y ago

I quote qart: "Lockdowns hurt poor people very badly; they need to earn to survive."

mrow84 5y ago
The title of the piece is "‘It is much worse this time’: India’s devastating second wave". Given that the discussion is of the exponential increases in both cases and deaths, it seems clear that the "it" in the title refers to "the pandemic", not "life in general". My response followed this interpretation, despite the wording of your questions - clearly I should have been more explicit: "How would the lockdowns have made the pandemic worse?"
- boyadjian 5y ago
  I do not say that the lockdowns make the pandemic worse, I say that the lockdowns make life of people worse. The mass media are making a great confusion, between "pandemic" and "life in general", and so do people, and that's what I am specifically criticizing.
  - mrow84 5y ago
    You are certainly right, the lockdowns do make the lives of most people worse, some significantly more so than others. The pandemic, however, directly threatens people's lives. There have been 33,815 confirmed covid deaths in India since the start of the year, and 3 million around the world since the beginning of the pandemic. I think it is unrealistic to suggest that there have been anything remotely like that number attributable to lockdown over those timeframes.

collyw 5y ago

One theory is about relative movement of old and young. Normal situation, young heathy people move around a lot more than the elderly, contract the virus get immune. With lockdown everyone is restricted and old and young go to the supermarket and back. As such the elderly are exposed at a higher rate before any level of herd immunity is reached.