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I wish people gave a bit more shit about protecting themselves properly, I see too many half-assed mask wearing (with the nose out) around. Or people thinking b

I wish people gave a bit more shit about protecting themselves properly, I see too many half-assed mask wearing (with the nose out) around. Or people thinking being masked means they can just hover near others. I also wish that governments try to inform more, I don't really see anyone saying "Ventilate more!" like this research results suggest they should: https://english.elpais.com/society/2020-10-28/a-room-a-bar-and-a-class-how-the-coronavirus-is-spread-through-the-air.html https://english.elpais.com/society/2020-10-28/a-room-a-bar-a... .

BugsJustFindMe 6y ago
> I wish people gave a bit more shit about protecting themselves properly I wish people gave a bit more shit about protecting others properly. The people who don't wear masks properly are the ones who think only about themselves ("this mask won't protect me anyway") and don't care about how masks help protect the people around them.
- ncallaway 6y ago
  Absolutely this. People who refuse to wear a mask around others, or intentionally wear one poorly are just telegraphing how little they care for other people.
  - ls612 6y ago
    I'm vaccinated, why the hell should I wear a mask besides the fact that the government says so? The odds of me having any detectable viral load to transmit are extremely low. [1] [1]https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/p0329-COVID-19-Vaccines.html https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/p0329-COVID-19-Vacci...
    - BugsJustFindMe 6y ago
      > I'm vaccinated, why the hell should I wear a mask 0. To prevent fresh distribution of constantly mutating variants so that we don't lose this wonderful chance we currently have of ending the pandemic. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/health/coronavirus-variant-tracker.html https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/health/coronavirus-... 1. Signaling to intransigent anti-vax anti-maskers that wearing a mask is the right thing to do for the sake of others, because social messaging works. 2. Making it harder for intransigent anti-vax anti-maskers to blend in. 3. Informing others around you in a communicating society that you care about them, because nobody but you knows that you're vaccinated. 4. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/belt-and-suspenders https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/belt-and-suspende... b. It costs you nothing. I'll probably think of other reasons later, but these seem good enough for now.
      - ls612 6y ago
        So it is really about signaling your affiliation at this point. At least you admit it. I wore a mask since last summer but the idea that I still need to wear it for no medical purpose, when over half of eligible Americans have received at least one shot and that number is rising every day, is just pure performative politics. And the cost isn’t zero. It prevents others from seeing my face which is a critical component of social interaction. This was an acceptable cost last fall when cases were surging and we had no cure, but now it’s just ridiculous. I’ll get downvoted I’m sure, but if the mask mandates continue past May it’ll be a very strong sign that they were never primarily about following the science.
        BugsJustFindMe 6y ago
        > no medical purpose The first reason I gave was medical. Maybe you missed it? It's the one marked with a 0. > It prevents others from seeing my face I'm sure it's a very nice face. What if you carry a photo of it on a necklace? Best of both worlds. > over half of eligible Americans have received "Eligible" is a weasel word in this context because it artificially constrains the set of people that you're taking into account who can breed and transmit mutated strains. Fewer than half of all Americans have received at least one shot so far. That is improving rapidly, of course, but there are also a number of mutated variants currently in the wild with more to come, and we should all want to stop them from gaining traction because we all want to live our lives.
        ls612 6y ago
        When we get to a point soon where the only people without immunity are either intransigent anti-vaxxers (for whom its their own fault if they get sick) or small children (who only get sick very rarely from covid, much more rarely than even young adults) then we can just ignore the disease as a society. Yes, over time variants will evolve and cause cold like symptoms in vaccinated people, but that's how every single common cold came about originally! Doctors have been saying since last year that this would happen with covid too. The idea being thrown around that people should continue to wear masks for the rest of their lives is just not justifiable.
    - ncallaway 6y ago
      If you've reached your 95% resistance level from the vaccine, then I don't think it's particularly egregious to not wear a mask. I'm sorry my two sentences didn't cover every single nuance of the complicated topic! I will say, I think there is value to wearing a mask even after being vaccinated, as a symbol of social cohesion, but I totally accept someone deciding that isn't a good enough reason to wear a mask. But, if you don't wear a mask because you've hit your vaccine resitence level, I don't think you're being selfish. That said, I still support a business or individual's right to require all people to wear a mask on their premises. After all, it might be impractical for them to properly screen who has and hasn't worn a mask.
- alex_smart 6y ago
  Indian people are very selfish in general unfortunately. Living in a resource-starved environment would do that to you.
  - simplezeal 6y ago
    This is hyper generalization without any references to back the assertion.
    - towergratis 6y ago
      This is not a scientific paper. Sometimes sharing your experience/opinion for a place you grew up and lived your whole life, is ok too

BugsJustFindMe 6y ago

> I wish people gave a bit more shit about protecting themselves properly I wish people gave a bit more shit about protecting others properly. The people who don't wear masks properly are the ones who think only about themselves ("this mask won't protect me anyway") and don't care about how masks help protect the people around them.

ncallaway 6y ago
Absolutely this. People who refuse to wear a mask around others, or intentionally wear one poorly are just telegraphing how little they care for other people.
- ls612 6y ago
  I'm vaccinated, why the hell should I wear a mask besides the fact that the government says so? The odds of me having any detectable viral load to transmit are extremely low. [1] [1]https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/p0329-COVID-19-Vaccines.html https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/p0329-COVID-19-Vacci...
  - BugsJustFindMe 6y ago
    > I'm vaccinated, why the hell should I wear a mask 0. To prevent fresh distribution of constantly mutating variants so that we don't lose this wonderful chance we currently have of ending the pandemic. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/health/coronavirus-variant-tracker.html https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/health/coronavirus-... 1. Signaling to intransigent anti-vax anti-maskers that wearing a mask is the right thing to do for the sake of others, because social messaging works. 2. Making it harder for intransigent anti-vax anti-maskers to blend in. 3. Informing others around you in a communicating society that you care about them, because nobody but you knows that you're vaccinated. 4. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/belt-and-suspenders https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/belt-and-suspende... b. It costs you nothing. I'll probably think of other reasons later, but these seem good enough for now.
    - ls612 6y ago
      So it is really about signaling your affiliation at this point. At least you admit it. I wore a mask since last summer but the idea that I still need to wear it for no medical purpose, when over half of eligible Americans have received at least one shot and that number is rising every day, is just pure performative politics. And the cost isn’t zero. It prevents others from seeing my face which is a critical component of social interaction. This was an acceptable cost last fall when cases were surging and we had no cure, but now it’s just ridiculous. I’ll get downvoted I’m sure, but if the mask mandates continue past May it’ll be a very strong sign that they were never primarily about following the science.
      - BugsJustFindMe 6y ago
        > no medical purpose The first reason I gave was medical. Maybe you missed it? It's the one marked with a 0. > It prevents others from seeing my face I'm sure it's a very nice face. What if you carry a photo of it on a necklace? Best of both worlds. > over half of eligible Americans have received "Eligible" is a weasel word in this context because it artificially constrains the set of people that you're taking into account who can breed and transmit mutated strains. Fewer than half of all Americans have received at least one shot so far. That is improving rapidly, of course, but there are also a number of mutated variants currently in the wild with more to come, and we should all want to stop them from gaining traction because we all want to live our lives.
        ls612 6y ago
        When we get to a point soon where the only people without immunity are either intransigent anti-vaxxers (for whom its their own fault if they get sick) or small children (who only get sick very rarely from covid, much more rarely than even young adults) then we can just ignore the disease as a society. Yes, over time variants will evolve and cause cold like symptoms in vaccinated people, but that's how every single common cold came about originally! Doctors have been saying since last year that this would happen with covid too. The idea being thrown around that people should continue to wear masks for the rest of their lives is just not justifiable.
  - ncallaway 6y ago
    If you've reached your 95% resistance level from the vaccine, then I don't think it's particularly egregious to not wear a mask. I'm sorry my two sentences didn't cover every single nuance of the complicated topic! I will say, I think there is value to wearing a mask even after being vaccinated, as a symbol of social cohesion, but I totally accept someone deciding that isn't a good enough reason to wear a mask. But, if you don't wear a mask because you've hit your vaccine resitence level, I don't think you're being selfish. That said, I still support a business or individual's right to require all people to wear a mask on their premises. After all, it might be impractical for them to properly screen who has and hasn't worn a mask.
alex_smart 6y ago
Indian people are very selfish in general unfortunately. Living in a resource-starved environment would do that to you.
- simplezeal 6y ago
  This is hyper generalization without any references to back the assertion.
  - towergratis 6y ago
    This is not a scientific paper. Sometimes sharing your experience/opinion for a place you grew up and lived your whole life, is ok too