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The problem jerf is referring to, IMO, is this part: Therefore, the "entire project" wasn't "above board" and the statement above is disingenuous. He's explic

The problem jerf is referring to, IMO, is this part: Therefore, the "entire project" wasn't "above board" and the statement above is disingenuous. He's explicitly (and literally) stating that Baio was not being sincere. When this clearly isn't the case. I think we both understand the difference between disingenuous and an oversight. And in particular he wasn't being disingenous with the statement he made. As jerf points out the statement is used as the pretext for the mistake he made. How in the world could that be disingenuous -- unless you think he didn't actually try and is lying about the whole thing?

mattmanser 15y ago
He obviously didn't go out of his way to make sure the entire project was above board as he didn't check the art, therefore the statement is disingenuous. I think jerf's got the wrong end of the stick of the idiom: went out of my way It doesn't mean try, it means done more than necessary, when he hadn't done the necessary. He hadn't even checked whether they'd be any issue with the artwork. If he'd said I thought I went out of my way it'd give the sentence the meaning that jerf and you seem to be giving it. But he didn't and so gallerytungsten is right, although being a little pedantic as the author did later explain he'd just assumed the use was transformational enough. When I was reading the article I had to re-read the first few paragraphs as it doesn't actually make sense (to say he'd checked the entire project was above board when it clearly wasn't or he wouldn't be writing the article).
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- wowowowowow 15y ago
  I hope that you never make a mistake. But if you do, I hope the world is kinder to you than you are to baio. As far as I'm concerned, it's irresponsible to defame baio based on nothings but a particularly uncharitable reading of a blog post. I don't understand why you think that's enough to claim he is purposefully dishonest.

mattmanser 15y ago

He obviously didn't go out of his way to make sure the entire project was above board as he didn't check the art, therefore the statement is disingenuous. I think jerf's got the wrong end of the stick of the idiom: went out of my way It doesn't mean try, it means done more than necessary, when he hadn't done the necessary. He hadn't even checked whether they'd be any issue with the artwork. If he'd said I thought I went out of my way it'd give the sentence the meaning that jerf and you seem to be giving it. But he didn't and so gallerytungsten is right, although being a little pedantic as the author did later explain he'd just assumed the use was transformational enough. When I was reading the article I had to re-read the first few paragraphs as it doesn't actually make sense (to say he'd checked the entire project was above board when it clearly wasn't or he wouldn't be writing the article).

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wowowowowow 15y ago
I hope that you never make a mistake. But if you do, I hope the world is kinder to you than you are to baio. As far as I'm concerned, it's irresponsible to defame baio based on nothings but a particularly uncharitable reading of a blog post. I don't understand why you think that's enough to claim he is purposefully dishonest.