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I'm sorry to hear about your friend, and that you've had some bad experiences with recommendation systems recently, whether it be on YouTube, Twitter, or Facebo
by rirarobo 5y ago
I'm sorry to hear about your friend, and that you've had some bad experiences with recommendation systems recently, whether it be on YouTube, Twitter, or Facebook.
I also had a similar experience after a friend was killed in a home burglary, and my news feed started pushing all the latest updates on the case as well as similarly tragic news stories. For a long time, these recommendations were a painful and unwanted reminder of my friend's murder. Even worse was that the algorithm was definitely trying to push increasingly extreme and fear-mongering content about home invasions, all to try to get my clicks, and perhaps unintentionally radicalize me in the process.
As for why this type of thing happens, I think this part from your last point is pretty much right on the mark, "none of this requires any complex algos". All it takes is data of your browsing habits, the webpages you visit, the keywords you search, the webpages your friends and contacts visit, etc. There don't need to be any database fields explicitly encoding this information, which is why it's so worrying, such a system can push personalized traumatic content a global scale with precision, all from keywords and algorithms intended to maximize click revenue.
The other side of the equation is the content that gets recommended. I'm not sure who created the YouTube video that mocked your friend's death, but in my experience I was pushed content from typical local news outlets, then less reputable outrage content farms, and finally even more despicable sources, like white supremacist sites. That's something about this experience that really disturbed me. I've seen uncannily accurate product predictions before, but usually the 3rd party was relatively reasonable. I hadn't really ever been recommended radicalizing propaganda before, not to this degree. I've read articles about some of the operators of such sites, and they often don't even believe the content that they're pushing. They know that it triggers something in people who are vulnerable, and they exploit that for profit. That whole ecosystem just seems pure evil to me. At least the recommender systems work most of the time, usually just showing me stuff related to my hobbies, cute cats, etc.
Anyway, the combination of incomprehensible recommender systems and toxic content on the web is definitely not good for anyone's mental health. Hope you feel better in the future.
- whereis 5y agothanks for the detailed response i wasnt searching for anything related to my friend's suicide. i was in shock based on my description, its clear as day to me that google's algo absolutely did parse the fact that my friend had died from suicide and did show me content that was intended to align with his tragic life. it wasn't friendly or empathetic content; it mocked him and gaslighted me. This isnt something I am letting go. I will take this to the tucking grave and put it along with all of my other observations if I have to, on my socmed memorial. all my childhood genius classmates will catch up to my memorial eventually and will have questions. Google employee, can you help me out by looking into this? No response is likely to be forthcoming -- they will never admit if it was some intentional malice, so they rely on the speculation of outsiders adhering to rational conclusion of incompetence over malice observations of entropy. Google, I am assuming you engaged in a malicious psychological experiment on me using the data point of the news about suicide of a childhood friend to cybergaslight me. Until someone from google opens their data and algos and logs to prove otherwise, I am assuming based on my experience that you engage in premeditated malice on US citizens with their personal data google and friends have too much data, too much power, and too little accountability. simply put, if they fail to help me to understand this, then they will be empowered to engage in any degree of malicious psychological experiments on unsuspecting US citizens with total impunity. gaslighting me about tragic incidents or personal family: Suicide (google), death of a parent while homeless (ok hes listening now..), threaten my nephew (clearance job), public utils nalo gaslighting (duff) -- google i'll give you a chance to look into this and get back to me. You fucked with my life and did nothing at all for me, are worth trillion(s). take some responsibility and help me out. please. this isnt the appropriate venue for me to disclose my encounters with tech billionaires or celebrities and the associated threats I received, and i dont want to weave together speculative narratives between disjointed parties. google, please do the right thing and help me out here.
- whereis 5y agoI am hopefully going to finally commit suicide shortly. After the incident where google gaslighted me about the suicide of a childhood friend (and the nalo public utils duff incident later that month), I gave away my million dollar retirement and went homeless in preparation for suicide. I am hoping to be dead by end of this month finally. My life has been totally dismantled (and my rep is destroyed anyway), precisely so I could investigate and disclose this form of malice that I've experienced for decades. I'll put all of my documented experiences on my memorial. I've been tracking this issue of malicious creepiness with american web properties for decades. This incident with google is hardly the first. I am 99.999% sure google engaged in intentional malice here. I'd rather fucking DIE than exist on a scumbag ape planet where a trillion dollar corp has disinterested/neutral outsiders supporting their scumbag cybergaslighting garbage, because who would believe @googleai would possibly engage in a malicious psyop on an American citizen. Nissy
- whereis 5y agoanother note: I make the claim that google engaged in a malicious psyop, and its on me to prove it. yet, only google has the logs to prove/disprove the claim.