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That only makes sense if you agree with the open source foundation definition of restrictive. I don't. I think the ability to freely link to whatever other soft

by cevian 5y ago

That only makes sense if you agree with the open source foundation definition of restrictive. I don't. I think the ability to freely link to whatever other software is much more important to most people than the ability to run a *aaS. We never made any claims about open source only our opinion about what restrictive means to us.

foerbert 5y ago
That's fine. I wasn't taking a position. I was explaining why people were using Open Source as a comparison. There were also no claims about whatever definition of restrictive you were using. It was just a short statement that the Timescale license was designed to be less restrictive than the AGPL. You can't really be that surprised when somebody comes along and starts judging it by Open Source standards after that, can you?
- cevian 5y ago
  That's fair but I was more replying to the OP that said "but it shouldn't be called an Open Source license". The point is we don't call our license Open Source. Comparisons to Open Source and discussions of the pros and cons of both approaches are, of course, fair.
keonix 5y ago
AGPL license clearly gives you the ability to freely link with whatever software you want. The only requirement is to share it with your customers. Following your logic it could be said that MIT licensed software could not be freely used because it requires preservation of original copyright notice
DetroitThrow 5y ago
>That only makes sense if you agree with the open source foundation definition of restrictive. I think Timescale employees should remember to preface "This is our belief on the definition of restrictive" when describing the license as more open than open source licenses, given much of the community might disagree (sometimes vehemently) about that take.
- detaro 5y ago
  Or scope it as "less restrictive for most users" or something along those lines.
  - cevian 5y ago
    That may indeed have been more accurate. But this is a HN comment thread after all, we can't capture all subtleties of a very complex debate. :)
- akulkarni 5y ago
  Totally fair. My initial comment was a little rushed. :-)

by cevian 5y ago

foerbert 5y ago

That's fine. I wasn't taking a position. I was explaining why people were using Open Source as a comparison. There were also no claims about whatever definition of restrictive you were using. It was just a short statement that the Timescale license was designed to be less restrictive than the AGPL. You can't really be that surprised when somebody comes along and starts judging it by Open Source standards after that, can you?

cevian 5y ago
That's fair but I was more replying to the OP that said "but it shouldn't be called an Open Source license". The point is we don't call our license Open Source. Comparisons to Open Source and discussions of the pros and cons of both approaches are, of course, fair.

keonix 5y ago

AGPL license clearly gives you the ability to freely link with whatever software you want. The only requirement is to share it with your customers. Following your logic it could be said that MIT licensed software could not be freely used because it requires preservation of original copyright notice

DetroitThrow 5y ago

>That only makes sense if you agree with the open source foundation definition of restrictive. I think Timescale employees should remember to preface "This is our belief on the definition of restrictive" when describing the license as more open than open source licenses, given much of the community might disagree (sometimes vehemently) about that take.

detaro 5y ago
Or scope it as "less restrictive for most users" or something along those lines.
- cevian 5y ago
  That may indeed have been more accurate. But this is a HN comment thread after all, we can't capture all subtleties of a very complex debate. :)
akulkarni 5y ago
Totally fair. My initial comment was a little rushed. :-)