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Merits of the argument aside, I was surprised to see the tone that Asa Dotzler took on that thread. To me, it sounded like "you enterprises are dumb and we don'

Merits of the argument aside, I was surprised to see the tone that Asa Dotzler took on that thread. To me, it sounded like "you enterprises are dumb and we don't care about you." If I were "Community Coordinator for Firefox marketing projects," I think I would have tried to be more tactful. I'm not trying to throw darts at him, but it may be instructional for those of us who are geeks to consider how our words can come across online.

asadotzler 15y ago
I didn't say anything that could be remotely construed as calling enterprises dumb. I said that they have not, and in my opinion, should not, be Firefox's target.
- fierarul 15y ago
  Actually it's unclear by reading this blog post alone what are you trying to say. It becomes clear if people read the end of your previous post[1] where you say: "For corporate deployments, there has to be a stable branch. I bet someone is probably going to make a nice business out of creating and maintaining a stable branch…" 1. http://mike.kaply.com/2011/06/21/firefox-rapid-release-process/ http://mike.kaply.com/2011/06/21/firefox-rapid-release-proce...
- mindcrime 15y ago
  Well, you believe what you believe, and nobody can fault you for your beliefs, in and of themselves. I happen to disagree with you, but that's not my issue with your comment... my issue is that - regardless of what you intended - your tone came off as very arrogant, dismissive and mean-spirited. And, like it or not, there is a PR aspect to consider anytime someone - who is as visible and well known as you are - says something that sparks controversy. I think this whole thing has done some damage to the Firefox brand, and that makes me sad, as I've been a Firefox (and before that, Mozilla... going back as far as Mozilla M2, IIRC) supporter for a long time.
- jubalfh 15y ago
  Now what you actually said is: ‘if you want to provide standarised and stable non-Windows browsing environment, screw you, sucker’. Yes, yes, I heard that ‘someone go and make business of stabilising the crap out of firefox’ song. Well, there's one problem – there's no such product yet.

asadotzler 15y ago

I didn't say anything that could be remotely construed as calling enterprises dumb. I said that they have not, and in my opinion, should not, be Firefox's target.

fierarul 15y ago
Actually it's unclear by reading this blog post alone what are you trying to say. It becomes clear if people read the end of your previous post[1] where you say: "For corporate deployments, there has to be a stable branch. I bet someone is probably going to make a nice business out of creating and maintaining a stable branch…" 1. http://mike.kaply.com/2011/06/21/firefox-rapid-release-process/ http://mike.kaply.com/2011/06/21/firefox-rapid-release-proce...
mindcrime 15y ago
Well, you believe what you believe, and nobody can fault you for your beliefs, in and of themselves. I happen to disagree with you, but that's not my issue with your comment... my issue is that - regardless of what you intended - your tone came off as very arrogant, dismissive and mean-spirited. And, like it or not, there is a PR aspect to consider anytime someone - who is as visible and well known as you are - says something that sparks controversy. I think this whole thing has done some damage to the Firefox brand, and that makes me sad, as I've been a Firefox (and before that, Mozilla... going back as far as Mozilla M2, IIRC) supporter for a long time.
jubalfh 15y ago
Now what you actually said is: ‘if you want to provide standarised and stable non-Windows browsing environment, screw you, sucker’. Yes, yes, I heard that ‘someone go and make business of stabilising the crap out of firefox’ song. Well, there's one problem – there's no such product yet.