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Reminder that using paper ballots mean that you never can make sure your vote was counted accurately and you have thousands of people on extreme sides of both p
by encryptluks2 6y ago
Reminder that using paper ballots mean that you never can make sure your vote was counted accurately and you have thousands of people on extreme sides of both political spectrums capable of interfering with your vote in some way.
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- remram 6y agoYou can watch people open the envelopes and count the votes.
- snug 6y agoCan you guarantee the supply chain, and the people watching every vote?
- bawolff 6y agoYes? Just livestream the whole process.
- snug 6y agoMail in voting? Early voting last for up to 2 months. That doesn't scale to 100M votes
- remram 6y agoBy "using paper ballots" I understood it to be in-person, voting by mail has a lot of issues indeed.
- snug 6y agoUsually in person voting is done through a machine. Where as vote by mail is a paper ballet
- bawolff 6y agoOnly in the united states (where i am not from). Normally i think of paper ballots as the hand counted sort. However as long as tge machine is just a scanner (still paper trail) much of the same argument spplies.
- remram 6y agoThat sounds ridiculous but I'm sure it works this way in the US. If you can have the worst of both worlds why not make it so.
- remram 6y agoOr just stand there. Where I'm from, representatives from each party and members of the public will be present the whole day.
- ben-schaaf 6y agoYes? In Australia every candidate can appoint scrutineers to watch votes being counted.
- bawolff 6y agoWe have well understood systems to mitigate risk of election tampeting with paper ballots. Not perfect, but enough i trust it.
- dumbfoundded 6y agoI think any reasonable system would include both. Paper backups + digital efficiency seems like the way to do it. Maybe paper backups + blockchain digital solutions would be preferable.
- bawolff 6y agoAt which point why bother with the blockchain?
- dumbfoundded 6y agoI think the point of blockchain is that it's more traceable and secure than other open options. I would think of it less as a crypto-currency and more of a merkle tree like git. Voting blockchain solutions won't be decentralized. It's just a useful protocol with some benefits.
- bawolff 6y agoWhich is not what you want in a secret ballot election. Ballot secrecy is an important safeguard to prevent coercion and vote buying.
- dumbfoundded 6y agoThere are protocol choices that still enable secret voting like monero for example.