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Being a native English speaker from another country I don't possess this association at all, and have to dig quite deep to remember that Americans do. I do get
by inopinatus 6y ago
Being a native English speaker from another country I don't possess this association at all, and have to dig quite deep to remember that Americans do.
I do get tootsuite => toute de suite i.e. a sense of immediacy, the present moment, with greater impact for being a bilingual pun. Along with that, the onomatopoeic elephant.
Cynical take: notwithstanding the denial in the PR, that original author knew the scatological allusion, and that it has parochial scope, i.e. they actively intended to annoy Americans, and in particular those with a prim streak.
- gojomo 6y agoAs a very young child & native American English speaker, I was told the rhyme, Beans, beans, the magical fruit, the more you eat, the more you toot. That cemented the association with farts, but 'toot' as in 'toot your own horn' (idiom for self-promotion), or even just literally tooting a horn, are also strong associations. So it's not exclusively, or primarily, a word for farts to my ears – but that's one of the top few potential meanings.
- fennecfoxen 6y agoBeans, beans, they're good for your heart. The more you eat them the more you fart.
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- inopinatus 6y agoYes, this is the rhyme I learned as a kid, warning against the gastrointestinal consequences of oligosaccharide consumption but extolling the cardioprotective nutrients they accompany. The GP form I have never encountered before, and by my assessment falls short in pedagogical qualities.
- DoreenMichele 6y agoI'm pretty sure that's supposed to be musical fruit. That's why they make you toot.
- Ancapistani 6y agoIt’s apparently a variant. I realized that the “magical” version was much more common than I’d expected a couple of years ago and did some informal research. It seems about evenly split, and I didn’t see any regional correlation.
- DoreenMichele 6y agoI'm not surprised. That's why there are qualifiers. It's not intended as smack talk asserting "My variation is better than yours!" (Throws down gloves.) Sometimes, it's nigh impossible to readily come up with the wording that captures the myriad thoughts flitting about my mind and account for all possible social bits and potential misinterpretations. And I comment anyway, knowing it's likely to go sideways cuz hoomans.
- inopinatus 6y agoThe "musical" form seems more refined, bringing poetry to a variant that is otherwise botanically problematic and nutritionally attenuated.
- DoreenMichele 6y agoI'm having trouble deciding if you are tugging everyone's leg or being straight up serious or tugging everyone's leg by being straight up serious. Sometimes that last is funnier, though usually only to the person doing it.
- inopinatus 6y agoWell, the entire discussion deriving from the proposed code change is ultimately debating the relative merits of a fart joke, so any contribution is bound to be a gas.
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- inopinatus 6y agoNote, this is botanically incorrect. Leguminous plants, as compared to angiosperms generally (and most starkly when compared to those with pericarpal fruits), may have differential edibility: that is, beans are not the fruit; the seed pod is the fruit (i.e. the mature ovary of the flower), and beans are an edible seed contained within the pod. Some legumes with edible pods (notably phaseolus vulgaris, the "green bean" or haricot verts) are known as beans in the culinary vernacular, but this is solely by common name, and does not hold up to anatomical scrutiny. Regular correspondents to this forum may also encounter Java beans, but be warned that their palatability is disputed, and ungoverned use, particularly in their enterprise form, can lead to buildup of toxic and irrevocable technical debt.
- gargron 6y agoI am not a native English speaker, even if I am flattered that nowadays you can't tell