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That was also my understanding of the GPL, but the AGPL is for me to understand.

by pvorb 5y ago

pmontra 5y ago
If your server runs Linux you don't have to distribute the source code of Linux to the users of the services running on it. If Linux was AGPL you would have to. And yet, you would not have to distribute the source of your closed source software running on the server.
- tremon 5y ago
  If Linux was AGPL you would have to You wouldn't, as system interfaces are specifically excluded as an AGPL enforcement domain. But if the Linux kernel was AGPL, you would have to supply the source code to your NFS clients, since those clients would be served directly by the kernel.
pavon 5y ago
The only difference between GPL3 and AGPL3 is what constitutes distribution. With GPL3 you have to provide source to anyone you provide binaries. With AGPL3 you also have to provide source to anyone who uses the software remotely (eg a web app). Everything else, including the scope of what must be included in the source (modifications, linked software, but not software that talks over IPC, etc), is identical between GPL3 and AGPL3. More specifically, the only difference between GPL and AGPL is section 13 (and the preamble summary). The rest of the license is word-for-word identical (save for the name). https://www.gnu.org/licenses/agpl-3.0.en.html#section13 https://www.gnu.org/licenses/agpl-3.0.en.html#section13
- LukeShu 5y ago
  To expand on that, you have to offer to provide the source to "all users interacting with it remotely through a computer network". If you're using Grafana for monitoring your SaaSS app, then your users aren't interacting with Grafana, so you're fine.
  - Paul-ish 5y ago
    If your SaaSS app surfaces a few small things from Grafana to the user, do you only have to open source the glue code, or the entire SaaSS application?
    - lmm 5y ago
      The entire application, to the extent that it's a single work under copyright law. If your app is a "mere aggregation" of e.g. grafana administration and other-service-administration components then maybe not.

That was also my understanding of the GPL, but the AGPL is for me to understand.

by pvorb 5y ago

That was also my understanding of the GPL, but the AGPL is for me to understand.

If your server runs Linux you don't have to distribute the source code of Linux to the users of the services running on it. If Linux was AGPL you would have to. And yet, you would not have to distribute the source of your closed source software running on the server.

tremon 5y ago
If Linux was AGPL you would have to You wouldn't, as system interfaces are specifically excluded as an AGPL enforcement domain. But if the Linux kernel was AGPL, you would have to supply the source code to your NFS clients, since those clients would be served directly by the kernel.

pavon 5y ago

The only difference between GPL3 and AGPL3 is what constitutes distribution. With GPL3 you have to provide source to anyone you provide binaries. With AGPL3 you also have to provide source to anyone who uses the software remotely (eg a web app). Everything else, including the scope of what must be included in the source (modifications, linked software, but not software that talks over IPC, etc), is identical between GPL3 and AGPL3. More specifically, the only difference between GPL and AGPL is section 13 (and the preamble summary). The rest of the license is word-for-word identical (save for the name). https://www.gnu.org/licenses/agpl-3.0.en.html#section13 https://www.gnu.org/licenses/agpl-3.0.en.html#section13

LukeShu 5y ago
To expand on that, you have to offer to provide the source to "all users interacting with it remotely through a computer network". If you're using Grafana for monitoring your SaaSS app, then your users aren't interacting with Grafana, so you're fine.
- Paul-ish 5y ago
  If your SaaSS app surfaces a few small things from Grafana to the user, do you only have to open source the glue code, or the entire SaaSS application?
  - lmm 5y ago
    The entire application, to the extent that it's a single work under copyright law. If your app is a "mere aggregation" of e.g. grafana administration and other-service-administration components then maybe not.