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> Planned obsolescence has never really been Apple's style (their devices generally get longer software support and have better resale value than anyone else).

> Planned obsolescence has never really been Apple's style (their devices generally get longer software support and have better resale value than anyone else). I think that only applies to their mobile devices. I have had Intel Macs that can't run the latest MacOS but can still Boot Camp into Windows 10. Of course, this is all moot in a post-Intel Apple world.

fastball 6y ago
Windows 10 was released in 2015. Apple releases a new major macOS update every year. Not really surprised that you can run 6 year old software + minor updates on an 6-10 year old machine but can't run a major software revision from the past couple years.
- slantyyz 6y ago
  Yeah but the point still stands that you can still run new applications on Windows 10 in Boot Camp an old Mac. There's a good chance that if you're using a "left behind" Mac, that you can't even update your apps because they stopped supporting your version of MacOS, even though it's working perfectly fine. Also, Windows 10 in 2021 is far from being exactly like Windows 10 in 2015. There have been a lot of changes, Microsoft just doesn't increment the major number any more.
- oblio 6y ago
  > Windows 10 was released in 2015. Apple releases a new major macOS update every year. Not really surprised that you can run 6 year old software + minor updates on an 6-10 year old machine but can't run a major software revision from the past couple years. If you're saying that Windows 10 from 2021 is Windows 10 from 2015 with "minor updates", you haven't been paying attention to Windows updates :-) Windows 10 updates are probably bigger than MacOS updates.
- Rhedox 6y ago
  Windows 10 consistently gets updates just like Mac OS gets updates. This is like saying Mac OS X is 10 year old software.
ahlschwede 6y ago
Most non-technical people don't share the same definition of obsolete. I know a few people who have gone more than 10 years between hardware purchases using Apple computers.

fastball 6y ago

Windows 10 was released in 2015. Apple releases a new major macOS update every year. Not really surprised that you can run 6 year old software + minor updates on an 6-10 year old machine but can't run a major software revision from the past couple years.

slantyyz 6y ago
Yeah but the point still stands that you can still run new applications on Windows 10 in Boot Camp an old Mac. There's a good chance that if you're using a "left behind" Mac, that you can't even update your apps because they stopped supporting your version of MacOS, even though it's working perfectly fine. Also, Windows 10 in 2021 is far from being exactly like Windows 10 in 2015. There have been a lot of changes, Microsoft just doesn't increment the major number any more.
oblio 6y ago
> Windows 10 was released in 2015. Apple releases a new major macOS update every year. Not really surprised that you can run 6 year old software + minor updates on an 6-10 year old machine but can't run a major software revision from the past couple years. If you're saying that Windows 10 from 2021 is Windows 10 from 2015 with "minor updates", you haven't been paying attention to Windows updates :-) Windows 10 updates are probably bigger than MacOS updates.
Rhedox 6y ago
Windows 10 consistently gets updates just like Mac OS gets updates. This is like saying Mac OS X is 10 year old software.

ahlschwede 6y ago

Most non-technical people don't share the same definition of obsolete. I know a few people who have gone more than 10 years between hardware purchases using Apple computers.