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Better than being a hellscape in 6 months-2 years due to forced integration with Teams.

Ombudsman 6y ago
I think Microsoft is smarter than that, look at Github for example, people have largely forgotten it's owned by MSFT. They would have left Discord as a gaming platform and used it's tech in Teams instead. Teams is so behind Discord in all areas except video quality.
- adflux 6y ago
  What fields are that exactly?
  - russellendicott 6y ago
    Teams chat is awful: - Trying to figure out how to do code snippets and inline code is madness. - You can't copy and paste whole conversations. - Integrations/bots are awful and make you realize the whole thing is built on some ancient Sharepoint SOAP API. - Mobile app on Android whacks out frequently and has to do the blinky reload chat 19 times before the screen settles down. A lot of my other gripes are probably due to enterprise issues but I'll mention them anyway: - Can't create my own channels. - can't be on my company Teams on a call and switch to Microsoft's server to talk to a TAM without dropping the call.
- selimthegrim 6y ago
  Has there been an exodus of talent from Github if they are leveling salaries?
  - Rapzid 6y ago
    Probably an influx of talent. They suddenly started shipping stuff after the acquisition..
    - sascha_sl 6y ago
      Very poorly polished stuff, to be honest. Before, they always seemed to take great care in making their core product (and the API for it) great. The only thing I can think of that was similarly unpolished was GitHub Enterprise.
    - selimthegrim 6y ago
      I wonder if that extends to their data org...
- sascha_sl 6y ago
  I don't think GitHub staff has forgotten. Actions are straight up Azure Pipelines. The code is a huge mess. If I didn't know better I'd say it's obscured by design. Check out the actions/runner repo if you don't believe me. They polished them very well for the hosted version, but the cracks show if you try to use the self-hosted version. I can't believe anyone at GitHub is particularly thrilled about having a Microsoft technology that broken imposed on them.
shagie 6y ago
My tea leaf reading suggests that it would have been a closer interaction to Xbox and gaming than Teams and corporate.
spondyl 6y ago
Can I just say, while I believe Discord will die anyway if it IPOs (as with anything that believes in infinite scaling), I would have loved to see Microsoft enact the special fucked up kind of integration that only they can manage

I think Microsoft is smarter than that, look at Github for example, people have largely forgotten it's owned by MSFT. They would have left Discord as a gaming platform and used it's tech in Teams instead. Teams is so behind Discord in all areas except video quality.

adflux 6y ago
What fields are that exactly?
- russellendicott 6y ago
  Teams chat is awful: - Trying to figure out how to do code snippets and inline code is madness. - You can't copy and paste whole conversations. - Integrations/bots are awful and make you realize the whole thing is built on some ancient Sharepoint SOAP API. - Mobile app on Android whacks out frequently and has to do the blinky reload chat 19 times before the screen settles down. A lot of my other gripes are probably due to enterprise issues but I'll mention them anyway: - Can't create my own channels. - can't be on my company Teams on a call and switch to Microsoft's server to talk to a TAM without dropping the call.
selimthegrim 6y ago
Has there been an exodus of talent from Github if they are leveling salaries?
- Rapzid 6y ago
  Probably an influx of talent. They suddenly started shipping stuff after the acquisition..
  - sascha_sl 6y ago
    Very poorly polished stuff, to be honest. Before, they always seemed to take great care in making their core product (and the API for it) great. The only thing I can think of that was similarly unpolished was GitHub Enterprise.
  - selimthegrim 6y ago
    I wonder if that extends to their data org...
sascha_sl 6y ago
I don't think GitHub staff has forgotten. Actions are straight up Azure Pipelines. The code is a huge mess. If I didn't know better I'd say it's obscured by design. Check out the actions/runner repo if you don't believe me. They polished them very well for the hosted version, but the cracks show if you try to use the self-hosted version. I can't believe anyone at GitHub is particularly thrilled about having a Microsoft technology that broken imposed on them.

shagie 6y ago

My tea leaf reading suggests that it would have been a closer interaction to Xbox and gaming than Teams and corporate.

spondyl 6y ago

Can I just say, while I believe Discord will die anyway if it IPOs (as with anything that believes in infinite scaling), I would have loved to see Microsoft enact the special fucked up kind of integration that only they can manage