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I really like the design, including the colors. I realize it's just a standard "slab of glass and metal" design -- and in the mobile space competitors have caug

I really like the design, including the colors. I realize it's just a standard "slab of glass and metal" design -- and in the mobile space competitors have caught up -- but I've never seen a monitor that sleek, except maybe the Pro Display XDR. Edit: In fact, give me just the display in a 27" form factor and put all the display connections in a "connect box" like they did for Ethernet and I'd even be willing to pay an Apple tax for such a product. Oh, and give it a way to mount it on an arm rather than use a stand.

burlesona 6y ago
Agreed. My ultimate dream - that will never happen - is that Apple would release a version of this which is actually designed to be a dock for the MBP, and priced somewhere between $500-900. I think the reason they won't do it is that the "computer" is actually a minority of the cost here compared to all the other componentry. So they probably can't make their margins on such a device if they price it below ~$900 or so, and at that point paying $200 less for just a screen makes the screen seem expensive and the computer cheap at the same time, which is not what Apple wants.
- soneil 6y ago
  Honestly, I dig the styling enough that I'd buy it as a monitor if it supported Target Display still. I really do lament the loss of TDM, it was the perfect solution to the "disposable desktop" problem. Their excuse when they introduced the 5k is that the transports weren't capable. Now their entry-level machines can drive a 6k monitor, the excuse seems lacking.
- arvinsim 6y ago
  Yeah, I don't think they will ever make a dock nor an external monitor. I have resigned to just settling for good enough displays like the Dell U2720Q which does feature a 90W USB-C connection that charges my laptop.
jolux 6y ago
It supports VESA: https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac/imac-vesa https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac/imac-vesa
- Cu3PO42 6y ago
  So it does. That's great!
kylec 6y ago
The "connect box" could just be a computer itself, like the Mac mini, that you connect to the display via Thunderbolt
- Cu3PO42 6y ago
  It could be, but that's something I want to provide myself. I need the ability to hook up arbitrary laptops, PCs, ... and I would just like to run less cables to my display. Having one cable for everything would be much more aesthetically pleasing than running power and two or three display connections separately.
  - geogra4 6y ago
    Apple should bring back the duo dock!
cheaprentalyeti 6y ago
Like they did for ethernet? So welcome to Dongle Hell Part II: Desktop Boogaloo?
- Cu3PO42 6y ago
  You could make an argument that such a box constitutes a dongle, but I don't think it's in the same spirit. In case you didn't catch it: the ethernet port is placed on the power brick rather than directly on the device. I am pretty sure this is purely because they couldn't fit the port in the device itself, but I like the idea. A desktop monitor will always need a power cord, and all my monitors also have external power bricks already. In this hypothetical scenario I would just want them to take the ports that are normally on the monitor and move them to the other end of the power cord. Some high-end TVs also have this feature so you don't need to run as many wires to your potentially wall-mounted TV.
  - Pet_Ant 6y ago
    > I am pretty sure this is purely because they couldn't fit the port in the device itself, but I like the idea. There is a design consideration of not having yet another cable going up to the desk.
    - Cu3PO42 6y ago
      Sure, and that's exactly why I want this. But with the same argument they could have put USB-C or even USB-A ports on the brick for permanently connected peripherals, but they didn't. I understand it would be almost impossible for Thunderbolt due to concerns with signal integrity, but normal USB should work fine.
      - colejohnson66 6y ago
        I think the idea is that Ethernet is rarely touched while the USB ports would be quite a bit more. You don’t ever need to access the Ethernet cable except in very few circumstances.
dillondoyle 6y ago
Me too!! I would buy at 1k-1.5k if it was at least 27, but 30" would be better for video. Vesa is nice for anyone who likes a 2nd vertical code monitor. Maybe someone can figure out a way to offload Chrome into the M1 and allow on bother screens. though a big benefit of that is battery life which doesn't matter at a desk.

burlesona 6y ago

Agreed. My ultimate dream - that will never happen - is that Apple would release a version of this which is actually designed to be a dock for the MBP, and priced somewhere between $500-900. I think the reason they won't do it is that the "computer" is actually a minority of the cost here compared to all the other componentry. So they probably can't make their margins on such a device if they price it below ~$900 or so, and at that point paying $200 less for just a screen makes the screen seem expensive and the computer cheap at the same time, which is not what Apple wants.

soneil 6y ago
Honestly, I dig the styling enough that I'd buy it as a monitor if it supported Target Display still. I really do lament the loss of TDM, it was the perfect solution to the "disposable desktop" problem. Their excuse when they introduced the 5k is that the transports weren't capable. Now their entry-level machines can drive a 6k monitor, the excuse seems lacking.
arvinsim 6y ago
Yeah, I don't think they will ever make a dock nor an external monitor. I have resigned to just settling for good enough displays like the Dell U2720Q which does feature a 90W USB-C connection that charges my laptop.

jolux 6y ago

It supports VESA: https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac/imac-vesa https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac/imac-vesa

Cu3PO42 6y ago
So it does. That's great!

kylec 6y ago

The "connect box" could just be a computer itself, like the Mac mini, that you connect to the display via Thunderbolt

Cu3PO42 6y ago
It could be, but that's something I want to provide myself. I need the ability to hook up arbitrary laptops, PCs, ... and I would just like to run less cables to my display. Having one cable for everything would be much more aesthetically pleasing than running power and two or three display connections separately.
- geogra4 6y ago
  Apple should bring back the duo dock!

cheaprentalyeti 6y ago

Like they did for ethernet? So welcome to Dongle Hell Part II: Desktop Boogaloo?

Cu3PO42 6y ago
You could make an argument that such a box constitutes a dongle, but I don't think it's in the same spirit. In case you didn't catch it: the ethernet port is placed on the power brick rather than directly on the device. I am pretty sure this is purely because they couldn't fit the port in the device itself, but I like the idea. A desktop monitor will always need a power cord, and all my monitors also have external power bricks already. In this hypothetical scenario I would just want them to take the ports that are normally on the monitor and move them to the other end of the power cord. Some high-end TVs also have this feature so you don't need to run as many wires to your potentially wall-mounted TV.
- Pet_Ant 6y ago
  > I am pretty sure this is purely because they couldn't fit the port in the device itself, but I like the idea. There is a design consideration of not having yet another cable going up to the desk.
  - Cu3PO42 6y ago
    Sure, and that's exactly why I want this. But with the same argument they could have put USB-C or even USB-A ports on the brick for permanently connected peripherals, but they didn't. I understand it would be almost impossible for Thunderbolt due to concerns with signal integrity, but normal USB should work fine.
    - colejohnson66 6y ago
      I think the idea is that Ethernet is rarely touched while the USB ports would be quite a bit more. You don’t ever need to access the Ethernet cable except in very few circumstances.

dillondoyle 6y ago

Me too!! I would buy at 1k-1.5k if it was at least 27, but 30" would be better for video. Vesa is nice for anyone who likes a 2nd vertical code monitor. Maybe someone can figure out a way to offload Chrome into the M1 and allow on bother screens. though a big benefit of that is battery life which doesn't matter at a desk.