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I am not excited at all for the Ethernet port to be part of the power supply. It just makes my job harder. I will probably be buying external 10Gbe adapters a

I am not excited at all for the Ethernet port to be part of the power supply. It just makes my job harder. I will probably be buying external 10Gbe adapters anyway. The memory is also a concern. They didn't show the memory in the summary slide like they did with the MacBooks and Mac mini. This is just disappointing. I hope 16gb an option. I really wish we could get back to 32gb. [edit] 16GB is an option according to the tech specs page https://www.apple.com/imac-24/specs/ https://www.apple.com/imac-24/specs/ [/edit]

jeffbee 5y ago
Having a power brick at all is a huge step backwards. The old iMac has an internal power supply.
- protomyth 5y ago
  Well, true, but given their love of thermal throttling, it actually might be a good thing to get that heat generation out of the case.
  - nojito 5y ago
    M1 doesn’t really throttle.
    - protomyth 5y ago
      Yes, it does or this wouldn't have done a thing https://www.sysorchestra.com/reduce-thermal-throttling-on-your-apple-m1-macbook-air-to-increase-performance/ https://www.sysorchestra.com/reduce-thermal-throttling-on-yo...
      - jeffbee 5y ago
        That's on the Air, though. Nobody has been able to thermally modulate performance of the M1 mini, at least not without a heat gun.
        protomyth 5y ago
        The Air has an M1. Let's not say something doesn't happen when it does. We also don't know the exact setup of the iMac in this regard.
        jeffbee 5y ago
        We don't, but their marketing photos clearly show a fan, which would lead to a reasonable conclusion that the thermal design is more along the lines of the Mini, and not similar to the Air.
        protomyth 5y ago
        Well, given the power supply is mostly out of the box, I would expect it not to be along the lines of the Mac mini, which has a fully internal power supply, thus my original comment.
      - nojito 5y ago
        Both the iMac and the MacBook Pro are actively cooled.
  - jeffbee 5y ago
    The mac mini has an internal power supply. I wonder how much additional power is required by a 24" display.
    - Tsiklon 5y ago
      The PSU that comes with it is a 143w PSU, the M1 macbook pro comes with a 61w PSU, it's a big jump.
- tashoecraft 5y ago
  I have tons of room behind my desk, I have much less room on my desk. I don't want the power brick anywhere near my computer. As for 8gb, do people not see what Apple is doing here? All of their M1 entries are entry level. The true power user work will come, but this gets a lot of people converted over to M1, testing out the software/hardware, giving time for power software suppliers to focus on M1. The additional ram will come (though with M1 it doesn't seem nearly as big of a priority to have more).
  - kllrnohj 5y ago
    > I have tons of room behind my desk, I have much less room on my desk. I don't want the power brick anywhere near my computer. There wouldn't really be any increase in desk usage if the power brick was integrated into the display. The stand's size will still be more or less the same even if the display was twice as thick, as it's going to be more about supporting the leverage from the upper part of the display at whatever angles it supports being at rather than a bit of extra thickness & weight in the bottom part of the display. The problem with the brick is it's something you have to cable manage. You need to mount that brick somewhere or have it sitting visibly ugly on the floor. And since it has a port on it, you need to be able to access it more often than you otherwise would. It's classic form over function here. They wanted it to look like a big ipad, and they made compromises to achieve that. It does look nice, but you are paying for that in more than just the MSRP price. If you really care about the minimal amount of desk footprint then get the one with a VESA mount instead & put it on a monitor arm.
tyingq 5y ago
It does have some memory specs at the bottom, but only for the "starts at" models with 8gb.
websites2323 5y ago
I think you’re a holdout for the pro version. This one is only 24” anyway.
- protomyth 5y ago
  For myself, yes. I am waiting for the first 32GB to jump. We have bought 16GB models of the iMac and MacBook Air with the people receiving them being quite happy. I don't see any of our iMacs getting replaced just yet. Most of those people are running Parallels and that opens a whole class of worms.
soapdog 5y ago
that is odd, in https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac/imac https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac/imac it doesn't show the 16gb option.
9front 5y ago
When Mac Mini M1 was released I ordered the 8GB model. It was always swapping and memory pressure high. After replacing with a 16GB model swapping decreased but 16GB of RAM is still not enough. Hope Apple will release future models with lot more RAM otherwise the M1 based devices are useless.

jeffbee 5y ago

Having a power brick at all is a huge step backwards. The old iMac has an internal power supply.

protomyth 5y ago
Well, true, but given their love of thermal throttling, it actually might be a good thing to get that heat generation out of the case.
- nojito 5y ago
  M1 doesn’t really throttle.
  - protomyth 5y ago
    Yes, it does or this wouldn't have done a thing https://www.sysorchestra.com/reduce-thermal-throttling-on-your-apple-m1-macbook-air-to-increase-performance/ https://www.sysorchestra.com/reduce-thermal-throttling-on-yo...
    - jeffbee 5y ago
      That's on the Air, though. Nobody has been able to thermally modulate performance of the M1 mini, at least not without a heat gun.
      - protomyth 5y ago
        The Air has an M1. Let's not say something doesn't happen when it does. We also don't know the exact setup of the iMac in this regard.
        jeffbee 5y ago
        We don't, but their marketing photos clearly show a fan, which would lead to a reasonable conclusion that the thermal design is more along the lines of the Mini, and not similar to the Air.
        protomyth 5y ago
        Well, given the power supply is mostly out of the box, I would expect it not to be along the lines of the Mac mini, which has a fully internal power supply, thus my original comment.
    - nojito 5y ago
      Both the iMac and the MacBook Pro are actively cooled.
- jeffbee 5y ago
  The mac mini has an internal power supply. I wonder how much additional power is required by a 24" display.
  - Tsiklon 5y ago
    The PSU that comes with it is a 143w PSU, the M1 macbook pro comes with a 61w PSU, it's a big jump.
tashoecraft 5y ago
I have tons of room behind my desk, I have much less room on my desk. I don't want the power brick anywhere near my computer. As for 8gb, do people not see what Apple is doing here? All of their M1 entries are entry level. The true power user work will come, but this gets a lot of people converted over to M1, testing out the software/hardware, giving time for power software suppliers to focus on M1. The additional ram will come (though with M1 it doesn't seem nearly as big of a priority to have more).
- kllrnohj 5y ago
  > I have tons of room behind my desk, I have much less room on my desk. I don't want the power brick anywhere near my computer. There wouldn't really be any increase in desk usage if the power brick was integrated into the display. The stand's size will still be more or less the same even if the display was twice as thick, as it's going to be more about supporting the leverage from the upper part of the display at whatever angles it supports being at rather than a bit of extra thickness & weight in the bottom part of the display. The problem with the brick is it's something you have to cable manage. You need to mount that brick somewhere or have it sitting visibly ugly on the floor. And since it has a port on it, you need to be able to access it more often than you otherwise would. It's classic form over function here. They wanted it to look like a big ipad, and they made compromises to achieve that. It does look nice, but you are paying for that in more than just the MSRP price. If you really care about the minimal amount of desk footprint then get the one with a VESA mount instead & put it on a monitor arm.

tyingq 5y ago

It does have some memory specs at the bottom, but only for the "starts at" models with 8gb.

websites2323 5y ago

I think you’re a holdout for the pro version. This one is only 24” anyway.

protomyth 5y ago
For myself, yes. I am waiting for the first 32GB to jump. We have bought 16GB models of the iMac and MacBook Air with the people receiving them being quite happy. I don't see any of our iMacs getting replaced just yet. Most of those people are running Parallels and that opens a whole class of worms.

soapdog 5y ago

that is odd, in https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac/imac https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac/imac it doesn't show the 16gb option.

9front 5y ago

When Mac Mini M1 was released I ordered the 8GB model. It was always swapping and memory pressure high. After replacing with a 16GB model swapping decreased but 16GB of RAM is still not enough. Hope Apple will release future models with lot more RAM otherwise the M1 based devices are useless.