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It’s still post processing to create a sound stage to a stereo signal. Nothing wrong with that, but for instance if I’m watching a movie on an iPhone or somethi

It’s still post processing to create a sound stage to a stereo signal. Nothing wrong with that, but for instance if I’m watching a movie on an iPhone or something, I’m assuming I can’t get the true audio experience of the film. When it’s a movie I really am into, then I’m going to watch it in full surround, with discreet speakers. 7.1 to stereo headphones is always a compromise whether it’s Apple spatial audio, or Dolby Atmos for Headphones. And absolutely I get your point, that it’s great for watching it at night. I’m just guessing their market for 4K Apple TV is more home theater people. Usually when I’m watching at night with headphones I’ll be on the iPad. Again it’s not that I don’t see the use case, I just wouldn’t call it “baffling” since the market is a little different.

crazygringo 6y ago
> I’m just guessing their market for 4K Apple TV is more home theater people. Nope, it's just average people with TV's in their living rooms. Apple TV (even the 4K version) is just an average consumer product. And at least for non-tech people I know who have families, watching Apple TV at night with Airpods is super common.
- crazydoggers 6y ago
  I’m not sure about that. The average person uses the TV’s built in software and streaming features for the most part. According to this analysis AppleTV is a pretty niche product especially given its price point. https://9to5mac.com/2020/09/02/apple-tv-market-share-report/ https://9to5mac.com/2020/09/02/apple-tv-market-share-report/ I haven’t done the research, but I’m guessing Apple has. And my guess is that the market share using AirPods on iOS vastly outstrips those who use it on AppleTV. Again I’m not saying that it wouldn’t be a nice feature; but I just wouldn’t say it’s baffling. Apple is a fairly smart company... I’m sure they did some sort of cost benefit analysis and decided against it.
ricardobeat 6y ago
> It’s still post processing to create a sound stage to a stereo signal Your ears are a 'stereo signal' and they work fine for recognizing the sound stage coming out of a 7.1 system. The Airpods are just presenting the same audio information directly to your ears. Besides, there is a massive difference between Dolby for headphones and spatial audio - standard surround headphones will not give you a fixed sound stage as you move your head. I think you're underestimating the effect, if you haven't tried them.

crazygringo 6y ago

> I’m just guessing their market for 4K Apple TV is more home theater people. Nope, it's just average people with TV's in their living rooms. Apple TV (even the 4K version) is just an average consumer product. And at least for non-tech people I know who have families, watching Apple TV at night with Airpods is super common.

crazydoggers 6y ago
I’m not sure about that. The average person uses the TV’s built in software and streaming features for the most part. According to this analysis AppleTV is a pretty niche product especially given its price point. https://9to5mac.com/2020/09/02/apple-tv-market-share-report/ https://9to5mac.com/2020/09/02/apple-tv-market-share-report/ I haven’t done the research, but I’m guessing Apple has. And my guess is that the market share using AirPods on iOS vastly outstrips those who use it on AppleTV. Again I’m not saying that it wouldn’t be a nice feature; but I just wouldn’t say it’s baffling. Apple is a fairly smart company... I’m sure they did some sort of cost benefit analysis and decided against it.

ricardobeat 6y ago

> It’s still post processing to create a sound stage to a stereo signal Your ears are a 'stereo signal' and they work fine for recognizing the sound stage coming out of a 7.1 system. The Airpods are just presenting the same audio information directly to your ears. Besides, there is a massive difference between Dolby for headphones and spatial audio - standard surround headphones will not give you a fixed sound stage as you move your head. I think you're underestimating the effect, if you haven't tried them.