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Microsoft has trouble with UI design and it only got worse. Think about the "help" buttons that are on win system preferences, instead of directing you to the o

Microsoft has trouble with UI design and it only got worse. Think about the "help" buttons that are on win system preferences, instead of directing you to the option they send you to google or bing. It's ridiculous.

me_me_me 5y ago
UI design? Teams has no UI design, but haphazardly aranged buttons that are hard to spot. I can't describe how bad of experience it is to use. How does a corp that actively pushes their users/clients into using Teams makes no UX effort.
- mopsi 5y ago
  The whole Settings app also feels like something thrown together in a really primitive GUI scripting language that doesn't support anything besides text and its alignment. This is the old disk management utility: https://i.imgur.com/AqhYewC.jpg https://i.imgur.com/AqhYewC.jpg This is the new one: https://i.imgur.com/DNb0qJl.jpg https://i.imgur.com/DNb0qJl.jpg While the old was far from perfect, it at least gave visual hints to how partitions relate to disks. The new """design""" is just plain text, some of which is clickable and will reveal "Properties" button. It's up to you to find the hidden clickspots. I can't believe they are releasing such garbage. Sometimes I wonder: does Satya Nadella use Windows? How is he not raging every time he opens the Settings app?
  - airstrike 5y ago
    That's one painful side-by-side
    - bronson 5y ago
      “Just throw it in a webview and let’s grab an early lunch.”
- tyingq 5y ago
  Decision makers are pretty forgiving of an application that comes bundled with something else they had to buy anyway. And it is "good enough", despite being worse than competitors, for things like hosting video meetings.
- beckingz 5y ago
  I hoped that getting vaccinated would make me love microsoft more, but the teams UI is just so bad. Not to mention the pain that is moving between office 365 apps.
- bigger_cheese 5y ago
  My Org went from Skype for Business to Teams. Teams is 1000x better. The part I like is how it integrates with outlook. My workflow is pretty email oriented so being able to send an email meeting request and have that meeting seamlessly show up in teams app is really nice. Same thing when you receive an email from someone you can click their name and dial them via teams (you could do this with skype to but it was dodgy). Group calls, screen sharing etc. is miles better than Skype.
  - haecceity 5y ago
    Copying text works randomly...
vkou 5y ago
IF you want a really ridicilous example of Microsoft's inability to deal with UX, try changing literally anything that has to do with sound in Windows, and tell me how many separate sound-related configuration applications there are, and what are the paths to opening them. Then, ask someone who never used Windows XP to explain to you what each of those configuration applications is responsible for. (So they won't be able to lean on the crutch of "Oh, this one is the exact same thing as the sound application in Windows 98...")
- tinus_hn 5y ago
  One of the reasons of course is that every driver feels the need to add their great pane to the control panel applet, so now Microsoft can’t change anything to the applet or all the drivers break.
  - InitialLastName 5y ago
    3 of those settings panes are baked directly into Windows 10 and have nothing to do with any 3rd-party drivers. If the sound isn't enough, the power management is even worse. I count at least 5 different panes to configure different subsets of screen saver, sleep, hibernate and power on/off behavior, all from Windows itself with no 3rd-party software involved.
    - vkou 5y ago
      I believe (but can't confirm, because I don't own enough wierd audio equipment) that third-party drivers can embed controls into one of those settings panes. But yes, your point still stands. There's no good reason for this mess, and Microsoft needs to put someone who cares in charge of Windows UX.
      - InitialLastName 5y ago
        > I believe (but can't confirm, because I don't own enough wierd audio equipment) that third-party drivers can embed controls into one of those settings panes. That would be an improvement on the current status quo, where each third-party device adds its own new settings pane.

me_me_me 5y ago

UI design? Teams has no UI design, but haphazardly aranged buttons that are hard to spot. I can't describe how bad of experience it is to use. How does a corp that actively pushes their users/clients into using Teams makes no UX effort.

mopsi 5y ago
The whole Settings app also feels like something thrown together in a really primitive GUI scripting language that doesn't support anything besides text and its alignment. This is the old disk management utility: https://i.imgur.com/AqhYewC.jpg https://i.imgur.com/AqhYewC.jpg This is the new one: https://i.imgur.com/DNb0qJl.jpg https://i.imgur.com/DNb0qJl.jpg While the old was far from perfect, it at least gave visual hints to how partitions relate to disks. The new """design""" is just plain text, some of which is clickable and will reveal "Properties" button. It's up to you to find the hidden clickspots. I can't believe they are releasing such garbage. Sometimes I wonder: does Satya Nadella use Windows? How is he not raging every time he opens the Settings app?
- airstrike 5y ago
  That's one painful side-by-side
  - bronson 5y ago
    “Just throw it in a webview and let’s grab an early lunch.”
tyingq 5y ago
Decision makers are pretty forgiving of an application that comes bundled with something else they had to buy anyway. And it is "good enough", despite being worse than competitors, for things like hosting video meetings.
beckingz 5y ago
I hoped that getting vaccinated would make me love microsoft more, but the teams UI is just so bad. Not to mention the pain that is moving between office 365 apps.
bigger_cheese 5y ago
My Org went from Skype for Business to Teams. Teams is 1000x better. The part I like is how it integrates with outlook. My workflow is pretty email oriented so being able to send an email meeting request and have that meeting seamlessly show up in teams app is really nice. Same thing when you receive an email from someone you can click their name and dial them via teams (you could do this with skype to but it was dodgy). Group calls, screen sharing etc. is miles better than Skype.
- haecceity 5y ago
  Copying text works randomly...

vkou 5y ago

IF you want a really ridicilous example of Microsoft's inability to deal with UX, try changing literally anything that has to do with sound in Windows, and tell me how many separate sound-related configuration applications there are, and what are the paths to opening them. Then, ask someone who never used Windows XP to explain to you what each of those configuration applications is responsible for. (So they won't be able to lean on the crutch of "Oh, this one is the exact same thing as the sound application in Windows 98...")

tinus_hn 5y ago
One of the reasons of course is that every driver feels the need to add their great pane to the control panel applet, so now Microsoft can’t change anything to the applet or all the drivers break.
- InitialLastName 5y ago
  3 of those settings panes are baked directly into Windows 10 and have nothing to do with any 3rd-party drivers. If the sound isn't enough, the power management is even worse. I count at least 5 different panes to configure different subsets of screen saver, sleep, hibernate and power on/off behavior, all from Windows itself with no 3rd-party software involved.
  - vkou 5y ago
    I believe (but can't confirm, because I don't own enough wierd audio equipment) that third-party drivers can embed controls into one of those settings panes. But yes, your point still stands. There's no good reason for this mess, and Microsoft needs to put someone who cares in charge of Windows UX.
    - InitialLastName 5y ago
      > I believe (but can't confirm, because I don't own enough wierd audio equipment) that third-party drivers can embed controls into one of those settings panes. That would be an improvement on the current status quo, where each third-party device adds its own new settings pane.