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This reply starts by promoting specific methodologies, as though they fell from the sky. You may like them. They're still a matter of convention and choice.
by uniqueid 5y ago
This reply starts by promoting specific methodologies, as though they fell from the sky. You may like them. They're still a matter of convention and choice.
There is no unambiguous cut-off - that does not mean the clusters don't exist or have descriptive value.
As long as one understands the choices one made (even if they are conventional choices) in the cutoffs were subjective, which is the issue here. Infinite examples I could use to point this out, but here's one: are all genes equally important?
Genetic maps tell us the Dutch and Greek person are more closely related than the Dutch and Japanese.
Of course, but that's a different issue. A closer issue would be the heuristic for deciding who is a Dutch or a Greek person.
Tell a clustering algorithm to find ~5 clusters in the human genome distribution, and those clusters will correspond to traditional races.
The phrase 'a clustering algorithm' is weird here. It makes it sound as though developing an algorithm is objective, when developing an algorithm is subject to many choices.
- MikeUt 5y agoIt's a big leap to go from "not 100% certain and objective" to "meaningless, entirely invented fiction".
- uniqueid 5y agoI agree. To say it's a fiction means nothing more than that there are many different ways we could categorize populations (even if they are based on real attributes) into different buckets.