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Not very related... The reason I canceled Spotify Account is because I couldn’t downvote songs in a playlist. The music suggestions for some artists were horr

Not very related... The reason I canceled Spotify Account is because I couldn’t downvote songs in a playlist. The music suggestions for some artists were horrible, and I couldn’t opt out of them.

tachyonbeam 5y ago
What's losing my interest more and more is that their music recommendations are terrible, rarely match my taste... And, uh, I wish there was an easier way for me to just browse music by category. I just want to see all the new releases under electronic music and browse through them quickly. I don't need to be spoon-fed things as part of "discover weekly". Also, the Spotify Chromecast integration is utter shit. It has been utter shit for a while, but it seems it's just getting worse? It's laggy, it randomly pauses during my playlist for no reason. I ended up buying a bluetooth receiver to hook to my AV system so I could get reliable playback. What the fuck? Why isn't this getting fixed?
- claudiulodro 5y ago
  The Every Noise at Once guy also has a project where it's a raw weekly dump of all the new Spotify releases sorted by categories: https://everynoise.com/new_releases_by_genre.cgi?genre=edm&region=US https://everynoise.com/new_releases_by_genre.cgi?genre=edm&r... That's what I use to get more in-depth than the tiny amount of new releases Spotify features in its official playlists.
- vorticalbox 5y ago
  > What's losing my interest more and more is that their music recommendations are terrible, rarely match my taste... I found a lot of the release radar and other recommendations are spot on and I end up liking a lot of the songs it suggests.
- emayljames 5y ago
  YT Music has it all, categories, easy library listening, no podspaming, Chromecast. Spotify is like a salesman who has been drinking too much coffee.
  - devoutsalsa 5y ago
    For some reason, YouTube Music still puts music I've downvoted in the playlists it makes for me.
    - emayljames 5y ago
      I've never encountered this. Sounds like an odd account specific bug.
  - dankwizard 5y ago
    Doesn't YouTube Music suggest music based on Youtube Video watching habits? I think I read something about that which turned me off instantly.
    - devoutsalsa 5y ago
      It used to for me. I don't think it does at the moment.
- nitrogen 5y ago
  What's losing my interest more and more is that their music recommendations are terrible, rarely match my taste... The really aggravating thing is that we know they have the tech to do better. There was that demo of a 2D embedding of genre-space that actually did a pretty decent job of grouping similar-sounding songs together, but their recommendations all seem to be based off of what was popular at the same time, or what came from the same label. E.g. when I ask for recommendations for a song like "Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness," I should get "Avril 14th," not "Bullet with Butterfly Wings."
  - piva00 5y ago
    I don't see the connection between Smashing Pumpkins and Aphex Twin though, what kind of genre matching do you think would enable that on your specific example? Not nit-picking, just piqued my curiosity about how you would connect those artists.
    - nitrogen 5y ago
      That's exactly the problem, those songs are not in either artist's genre. The artists don't sound similar, but the songs do. By "genre" I mean the effective genre (mood/vibe, instrumentation, pacing, chord progression, etc) of the song, not the nominal genre of the artist. I would listen to those two songs in a row and be completely satisfied by the transition.
      - piva00 5y ago
        I was a huge Smashing Pumpkins fan when I was young, I'm a big Aphex Twin/Richard D. James fan and I don't know if I'd ever connect those two songs on a playlist or even play them together. That might be the issue, it's too much a subjective judgment. I've worked and interviewed for companies that do music analysis to find moods, atmospheres, similar timbres, chords and structure to mix and match automated playlists for business needs (restaurants, cafés, retail stores and so on), would like to see what kind of similarity scores they could get between the songs you mentioned.

Not very related... The reason I canceled Spotify Account is because I couldn’t downvote songs in a playlist. The music suggestions for some artists were horrible, and I couldn’t opt out of them.

tachyonbeam 5y ago

What's losing my interest more and more is that their music recommendations are terrible, rarely match my taste... And, uh, I wish there was an easier way for me to just browse music by category. I just want to see all the new releases under electronic music and browse through them quickly. I don't need to be spoon-fed things as part of "discover weekly". Also, the Spotify Chromecast integration is utter shit. It has been utter shit for a while, but it seems it's just getting worse? It's laggy, it randomly pauses during my playlist for no reason. I ended up buying a bluetooth receiver to hook to my AV system so I could get reliable playback. What the fuck? Why isn't this getting fixed?

claudiulodro 5y ago
The Every Noise at Once guy also has a project where it's a raw weekly dump of all the new Spotify releases sorted by categories: https://everynoise.com/new_releases_by_genre.cgi?genre=edm&region=US https://everynoise.com/new_releases_by_genre.cgi?genre=edm&r... That's what I use to get more in-depth than the tiny amount of new releases Spotify features in its official playlists.
vorticalbox 5y ago
> What's losing my interest more and more is that their music recommendations are terrible, rarely match my taste... I found a lot of the release radar and other recommendations are spot on and I end up liking a lot of the songs it suggests.
emayljames 5y ago
YT Music has it all, categories, easy library listening, no podspaming, Chromecast. Spotify is like a salesman who has been drinking too much coffee.
- devoutsalsa 5y ago
  For some reason, YouTube Music still puts music I've downvoted in the playlists it makes for me.
  - emayljames 5y ago
    I've never encountered this. Sounds like an odd account specific bug.
- dankwizard 5y ago
  Doesn't YouTube Music suggest music based on Youtube Video watching habits? I think I read something about that which turned me off instantly.
  - devoutsalsa 5y ago
    It used to for me. I don't think it does at the moment.
nitrogen 5y ago
What's losing my interest more and more is that their music recommendations are terrible, rarely match my taste... The really aggravating thing is that we know they have the tech to do better. There was that demo of a 2D embedding of genre-space that actually did a pretty decent job of grouping similar-sounding songs together, but their recommendations all seem to be based off of what was popular at the same time, or what came from the same label. E.g. when I ask for recommendations for a song like "Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness," I should get "Avril 14th," not "Bullet with Butterfly Wings."
- piva00 5y ago
  I don't see the connection between Smashing Pumpkins and Aphex Twin though, what kind of genre matching do you think would enable that on your specific example? Not nit-picking, just piqued my curiosity about how you would connect those artists.
  - nitrogen 5y ago
    That's exactly the problem, those songs are not in either artist's genre. The artists don't sound similar, but the songs do. By "genre" I mean the effective genre (mood/vibe, instrumentation, pacing, chord progression, etc) of the song, not the nominal genre of the artist. I would listen to those two songs in a row and be completely satisfied by the transition.
    - piva00 5y ago
      I was a huge Smashing Pumpkins fan when I was young, I'm a big Aphex Twin/Richard D. James fan and I don't know if I'd ever connect those two songs on a playlist or even play them together. That might be the issue, it's too much a subjective judgment. I've worked and interviewed for companies that do music analysis to find moods, atmospheres, similar timbres, chords and structure to mix and match automated playlists for business needs (restaurants, cafés, retail stores and so on), would like to see what kind of similarity scores they could get between the songs you mentioned.