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I think we are ultimately on the same page.. as far predictable abuse goes, the seatbelt and door detection strikes me as reasonable. Adding detection for wei
by reasonabl_human 5y ago
I think we are ultimately on the same page.. as far predictable abuse goes, the seatbelt and door detection strikes me as reasonable. Adding detection for weight on the front seat would be another good call but could further be defeated with a dumbbell. My point was that it isn’t up to Tesla to ‘baby-proof’ a potentially dangerous feature, but to make reasonable safety precautions, which it seems they’ve done.
Totally agree on the technology blind spot point and think the autopilot capability is over-hyped and the marketing angles could be dangerous when considering non-tech or older folks think it’s autonomous. However, that technology blind spot is addressed with the above precautions; if an elderly woman kicks it into autopilot thinking she can then leave the car or leave the drivers seat, the safety features will prevent her from doing so.
These guys had to ‘trick’ the vehicle in order to function as it did, and evidently evidently from the video the tricks were fairly involved and required a lot of understanding how the system worked, so I don’t think the blind spot argument can be used. It isn’t like an elderly woman started napping behind the wheel because she had a false sense of safety (also wouldn’t work bc you need to actively touch the wheel), they had to have intentionally circumvented safety checks and left the seat.
The ‘locked out’ bit is less relevant, agreed probably pedantic both ways, but to me locked out implies being unable to access your car without a locksmith or the like. In this case it seemed to further imply that the car was in a bad state, and mistakenly wasn’t letting its owner in... but that’s not the case- it was in drive and thus locked, it would be dangerous to have the car unlocked from the outside while driving, or from the inside too, preventing bumping the open button while groping for the window switches etc.
No he wouldn’t have to had climbed through the window... autopilot disengages when you take the wheel, all he had to do was grab the wheel a bit. He mentioned this actually. Or reach inside and pull the stalk up... or adjust the speed to zero on the wheel control knob.. regardless it isn’t relevant to the discussion at hand IMO.
The first video proves that these guys in the crash intentionally defeated the autopilot safety checks, nothing more. The second video, on the other hand, shows that Tesla has a long, long way to go to bring autopilot to a generally viable control system. So thank you for sharing these videos. I’ll pay even more attention on the highway now...