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I guess I don't know the right podcasts, but in my opinion, most of them are lazy marketing efforts by large corporations. I don't want to listen to native ads.

I guess I don't know the right podcasts, but in my opinion, most of them are lazy marketing efforts by large corporations. I don't want to listen to native ads. And this is basically everything Spotify seems to suggest to me in the podcast section. I fled Soundcloud because they couldn't get their shit together, it seems Spotify won't be competing forever as well. Their app has random stutters on modern hardware, and is cluttered with podcast stuff. All I want is music. I liked JRE, but even as a Spotify user, I don't listen to him anymore.

romanhn 6y ago
Not sure what you mean by "cluttered with podcast stuff". I'm a happy Spotify user and I'm barely aware that the podcast stuff exists.
- falcolas 6y ago
  It's gotten worse recently. The second row on my home screen are now dedicated to "Spotify original & exclusive shows" (when it used to be your weekly recommendation channels). There's another 2-3 rows dedicated to podcasts as you keep going down. For reference, I don't listen to podcasts in Spotify.
- dna_polymerase 6y ago
  Maybe we are in different A/B groups but for me the podcasts are now in row 3 minimum, sometimes in the second row on home screen. So at times I see them.
  - romanhn 6y ago
    Fair enough. I never linger on the home screen and head straight to playlist/liked music, so I suppose it's not something that's ever jumped out at me.
towb 6y ago
>I liked JRE, but even as a Spotify user, I don't listen to him anymore. I used this long podcasts to fall asleep to but had to stop now with spotify. I cast it to a google home mini and set the volume to pretty low, so I just can hear what they say pretty much, but at a random point spotify stops it and plays an ad at volume level 9000+ and doesn't resume play. How bad isn't that? Oh and Joe is getting less likeable lately... not sure if we should blame spotify for throwing all that money on him or what...
- joshlemer 6y ago
  > Joe is getting less likeable lately... Agreed - he always had a noticeable tilt on issues but lately it seems to be all about scoring sick dunks on SJW's. I was also surprised how little prep he apparently does before podcasts. During the latest Elon Musk episode he learned on-air that the reusable rockets land propulsively (as opposed to using parachutes or otherwise). It's odd to have possibly the richest man in the world on for 3 multi-hour podcasts and not know the most basic facts about their accomplishments.
  - towb 6y ago
    Haha yes! How could he not have seen the ring of fire video and still be Elons number one fan??? Could we confirm parallel universes now? Because the one Joe lives in is different. Think he lost touch. Also noticed him being more of a dick lately, the "I'm a nice person"-Joe is off in yet another universe doing something else...
  - xdennis 6y ago
    > lately it seems to be all about scoring sick dunks on SJW's I'm surprised you'd say that considering that Spotify has banned controversial episodes with Stefan Molyneux, Gavin McInnes, Milo Yiannopoulos, David Seaman (the pizza gate guy not the footballer), etc. I'm not sure he'll be able to have them on now. He did have Alex Jones again, but it was more fact checked than the previous episodes. I'd say he's less conspiratorial now.
pixxel 6y ago
>I liked JRE, but even as a Spotify user, I don't listen to him anymore. Same. I don't know why that is though. Perhaps because he sold out open podcasting? Especially as he has had Adam Curry on a couple of times. But then I defy anyone to turn down such a payday (I wouldn't). Perhaps it's the abandoning of a very large community (YT comments). That doesn't affect me personally but I know it affects others. A subconscious sour taste somewhat?
- function_seven 6y ago
  Couple reasons for me: Mainly, when I'm looking for something to listen to, I go to my podcast app. There's a list of latest episodes. I browse and pick one. JRE never appears on that list, so out of sight, out of mind. But also, his show has taken a nosedive in quality in the last 6 months. Feels like discussions are always (a) COVID mask rules are dumb (or maybe they're not?, depends on the guest), (b) The Comedy Cellar was hella tight back in the day, (c) Texas is awesome, California is basically a dystopian hellhole. None of those points bother me that much. Whatever. But when they're recycled ad nauseam on every episode, it's just boring. So now I just don't bother. I have the Spotify app. But it's not something I think about for podcasting.
  - Mountain_Skies 6y ago
    Wonder if the pandemic, combined with moving to another state, has impacted his ability to find new guests or guests with new stories to tell. IIRC, he has lots of hunters on his show, right? But if the world is more or less locked down, those hunters aren't going off to interesting places and coming back with stories to tell. Same for any other activity that requires travel. The fallback are the types of shows you mentioned. And being in a new state means creating a new network of contacts, which will take time and is slowed by the pandemic regardless of how loose Texas might be in their restrictions.
  - pixxel 6y ago
    > There's a list of latest episodes. I browse and pick one. JRE never appears on that list, so out of sight, out of mind. That’s a good point.
qudat 6y ago
> I liked JRE, but even as a Spotify user, I don't listen to him anymore. I'm not a spotify user and I will not move over to it for JRE. I'm more of a youtube user who found JRE interesting when it was on that platform.
- blfr 6y ago
  But that's just Google controlling your content rather than Spotify. Not really open either way.

romanhn 6y ago

Not sure what you mean by "cluttered with podcast stuff". I'm a happy Spotify user and I'm barely aware that the podcast stuff exists.

falcolas 6y ago
It's gotten worse recently. The second row on my home screen are now dedicated to "Spotify original & exclusive shows" (when it used to be your weekly recommendation channels). There's another 2-3 rows dedicated to podcasts as you keep going down. For reference, I don't listen to podcasts in Spotify.
dna_polymerase 6y ago
Maybe we are in different A/B groups but for me the podcasts are now in row 3 minimum, sometimes in the second row on home screen. So at times I see them.
- romanhn 6y ago
  Fair enough. I never linger on the home screen and head straight to playlist/liked music, so I suppose it's not something that's ever jumped out at me.

towb 6y ago

>I liked JRE, but even as a Spotify user, I don't listen to him anymore. I used this long podcasts to fall asleep to but had to stop now with spotify. I cast it to a google home mini and set the volume to pretty low, so I just can hear what they say pretty much, but at a random point spotify stops it and plays an ad at volume level 9000+ and doesn't resume play. How bad isn't that? Oh and Joe is getting less likeable lately... not sure if we should blame spotify for throwing all that money on him or what...

joshlemer 6y ago
> Joe is getting less likeable lately... Agreed - he always had a noticeable tilt on issues but lately it seems to be all about scoring sick dunks on SJW's. I was also surprised how little prep he apparently does before podcasts. During the latest Elon Musk episode he learned on-air that the reusable rockets land propulsively (as opposed to using parachutes or otherwise). It's odd to have possibly the richest man in the world on for 3 multi-hour podcasts and not know the most basic facts about their accomplishments.
- towb 6y ago
  Haha yes! How could he not have seen the ring of fire video and still be Elons number one fan??? Could we confirm parallel universes now? Because the one Joe lives in is different. Think he lost touch. Also noticed him being more of a dick lately, the "I'm a nice person"-Joe is off in yet another universe doing something else...
- xdennis 6y ago
  > lately it seems to be all about scoring sick dunks on SJW's I'm surprised you'd say that considering that Spotify has banned controversial episodes with Stefan Molyneux, Gavin McInnes, Milo Yiannopoulos, David Seaman (the pizza gate guy not the footballer), etc. I'm not sure he'll be able to have them on now. He did have Alex Jones again, but it was more fact checked than the previous episodes. I'd say he's less conspiratorial now.

pixxel 6y ago

>I liked JRE, but even as a Spotify user, I don't listen to him anymore. Same. I don't know why that is though. Perhaps because he sold out open podcasting? Especially as he has had Adam Curry on a couple of times. But then I defy anyone to turn down such a payday (I wouldn't). Perhaps it's the abandoning of a very large community (YT comments). That doesn't affect me personally but I know it affects others. A subconscious sour taste somewhat?

function_seven 6y ago
Couple reasons for me: Mainly, when I'm looking for something to listen to, I go to my podcast app. There's a list of latest episodes. I browse and pick one. JRE never appears on that list, so out of sight, out of mind. But also, his show has taken a nosedive in quality in the last 6 months. Feels like discussions are always (a) COVID mask rules are dumb (or maybe they're not?, depends on the guest), (b) The Comedy Cellar was hella tight back in the day, (c) Texas is awesome, California is basically a dystopian hellhole. None of those points bother me that much. Whatever. But when they're recycled ad nauseam on every episode, it's just boring. So now I just don't bother. I have the Spotify app. But it's not something I think about for podcasting.
- Mountain_Skies 6y ago
  Wonder if the pandemic, combined with moving to another state, has impacted his ability to find new guests or guests with new stories to tell. IIRC, he has lots of hunters on his show, right? But if the world is more or less locked down, those hunters aren't going off to interesting places and coming back with stories to tell. Same for any other activity that requires travel. The fallback are the types of shows you mentioned. And being in a new state means creating a new network of contacts, which will take time and is slowed by the pandemic regardless of how loose Texas might be in their restrictions.
- pixxel 6y ago
  > There's a list of latest episodes. I browse and pick one. JRE never appears on that list, so out of sight, out of mind. That’s a good point.

qudat 6y ago

> I liked JRE, but even as a Spotify user, I don't listen to him anymore. I'm not a spotify user and I will not move over to it for JRE. I'm more of a youtube user who found JRE interesting when it was on that platform.

blfr 6y ago
But that's just Google controlling your content rather than Spotify. Not really open either way.