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Even honor based societies can have criminal elements, the Yakuza being an example. This isn't just a Japanese thing, there are even honor based criminal clans

• DyslexicAtheist 6y ago
  let's rephrase what you're saying as so it's bulletproof: All criminal societies have honor based structures but not all honor based structures are criminal. What German language speakers refer to as "clans" can have 600 or even 1000 people. That's the size of a small town anywhere. Chances that there are people who end up in crime from such a huge sample is obvious. Add to it that the tight-knit structure of that community will be associated to that individual is a weakness in the eyes of another society where a family doesn't have more than max 20 or 30 people. (they won't say "this person is not part of the family", they may only say that person did bad which is not regular behavior for us etc) The loss of honor & face due to being then associated to the criminal elements in their group (in the eyes of others) is almost impossible for them to defend against. Much easier to say I do not know my neighbor who I only went to kindergarden with (but otherwise do not consider as part of my tribe)
  • sjg007 6y ago
    I'm not saying anything like that.