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Or even assaulting and/or arresting the bystander filming.

noxer 5y ago
Do you know what assaulting means? An arrest inst assaulting anyone. Also its not for filming but for not following orders which is exactly what cops are paid do do. If you dont want to get arrested follow the order they give you.
- dctoedt 5y ago
  Here, LMGTFY: https://www.theverge.com/21355122/police-brutality-violence-video-effects-trauma-civil-rights-black-lives-matter https://www.theverge.com/21355122/police-brutality-violence-... https://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/video-miami-cops-arrest-black-man-recording-them-11274715 https://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/video-miami-cops-arrest-b... https://www.star-telegram.com/news/local/crime/article248020770.html https://www.star-telegram.com/news/local/crime/article248020... https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/04/05/cop-slapped-suicidal-hospital-patient-then-video-emerged/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/04/05/cop-slapped... https://www.aclu.org/blog/free-speech/right-record-police-doesnt-disappear-when-you-put-your-phone-your-pocket https://www.aclu.org/blog/free-speech/right-record-police-do... https://www.aclu.org/blog/free-speech/right-record-police-doesnt-disappear-when-you-put-your-phone-your-pocket https://www.aclu.org/blog/free-speech/right-record-police-do... https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20170829/09553338104/no-immunity-cops-who-arrested-man-recording-them-obstruction.shtml https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20170829/09553338104/no-im...
  - noxer 5y ago
    You complete ignore what I wrote and post random links that make no sense in the context. My stance is you should film. My stance is you should not interfere in any way with police as a bystander unless you ask first and get permission to help. My stance is that if you get ordered to do something you have to follow that order. If you dont, you are in fact interfering and you are subject to lawful arrest. The fact that police can give you illegitimate order doesn't change that. For example they may not have the authority to demand you to stop filming but they can order you to leave the scene or hold appropriate distance. And various other stuff like to pull your hands out of your pocket. Its relevant to the safely of themself and everyone around. If you dont comply they have the right to arrest you. And as soon as they tell you that you are under arrest you lose your right to record or at lest you right to hold and point the cam the way you want. And yes there rules all apply even if you think the police is doing something illegitimate or brutal or whatever. You are not a judge and your subjective interpretation of the situation does in no way change what what you are and aren't allowed do do. Its really not that hard of a concept. Since you like links here is one for you https://youtu.be/qiZi-BpzFuc?t=72 https://youtu.be/qiZi-BpzFuc?t=72 As you can see people seriously think they need to film stuff because a dozen officers clearly are trying to kill someone and the only thing that could save the person are the bystander with phones. But police keeps them at a distance so they can kill the person anyway without video evidence. After 90 minutes they gave up because too many bystanders could potentially film the killing. Brave brave bystanders saving people form state funded killer pigs. People are so out of touch with reality they act like little kids who insist that all adults are complicit to be mean to them for no reason.

Do you know what assaulting means? An arrest inst assaulting anyone. Also its not for filming but for not following orders which is exactly what cops are paid do do. If you dont want to get arrested follow the order they give you.

dctoedt 5y ago
Here, LMGTFY: https://www.theverge.com/21355122/police-brutality-violence-video-effects-trauma-civil-rights-black-lives-matter https://www.theverge.com/21355122/police-brutality-violence-... https://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/video-miami-cops-arrest-black-man-recording-them-11274715 https://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/video-miami-cops-arrest-b... https://www.star-telegram.com/news/local/crime/article248020770.html https://www.star-telegram.com/news/local/crime/article248020... https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/04/05/cop-slapped-suicidal-hospital-patient-then-video-emerged/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/04/05/cop-slapped... https://www.aclu.org/blog/free-speech/right-record-police-doesnt-disappear-when-you-put-your-phone-your-pocket https://www.aclu.org/blog/free-speech/right-record-police-do... https://www.aclu.org/blog/free-speech/right-record-police-doesnt-disappear-when-you-put-your-phone-your-pocket https://www.aclu.org/blog/free-speech/right-record-police-do... https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20170829/09553338104/no-immunity-cops-who-arrested-man-recording-them-obstruction.shtml https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20170829/09553338104/no-im...
- noxer 5y ago
  You complete ignore what I wrote and post random links that make no sense in the context. My stance is you should film. My stance is you should not interfere in any way with police as a bystander unless you ask first and get permission to help. My stance is that if you get ordered to do something you have to follow that order. If you dont, you are in fact interfering and you are subject to lawful arrest. The fact that police can give you illegitimate order doesn't change that. For example they may not have the authority to demand you to stop filming but they can order you to leave the scene or hold appropriate distance. And various other stuff like to pull your hands out of your pocket. Its relevant to the safely of themself and everyone around. If you dont comply they have the right to arrest you. And as soon as they tell you that you are under arrest you lose your right to record or at lest you right to hold and point the cam the way you want. And yes there rules all apply even if you think the police is doing something illegitimate or brutal or whatever. You are not a judge and your subjective interpretation of the situation does in no way change what what you are and aren't allowed do do. Its really not that hard of a concept. Since you like links here is one for you https://youtu.be/qiZi-BpzFuc?t=72 https://youtu.be/qiZi-BpzFuc?t=72 As you can see people seriously think they need to film stuff because a dozen officers clearly are trying to kill someone and the only thing that could save the person are the bystander with phones. But police keeps them at a distance so they can kill the person anyway without video evidence. After 90 minutes they gave up because too many bystanders could potentially film the killing. Brave brave bystanders saving people form state funded killer pigs. People are so out of touch with reality they act like little kids who insist that all adults are complicit to be mean to them for no reason.