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Turntable.fm Hits 140,000 Users in Its First Month
- bproper 15y agoThe music industry would be crazy to nix this. Imagine selling special tracks exclusively through turntable.fm, branding rooms for DJs and celebs, etc. Shazam pushes $100 M. in purchases towards iTunes etc each year. Turntable could blow that away. But the industry is going to see people uploading DRM free tunes and freak about not getting enough of a cut.
- antidaily 15y agoThat kind of vision doesn't exist in the music industry. They shut down Muxtape. They'll shut down this.
- bproper 15y agoAnd yet they have allowed 8track to exist. The founders are hoping they can exist under the protections of DMCA streaming radio.
- citadrianne 15y agoThe question is whether Turntable will have to make so many compromises with the labels that the site loses its appeal. You can't skip through something like more than two songs in a row in 8tracks. You could see how those kinds of restrictions could potentially ruin the fun of Turntable.
- pavel_lishin 15y agoI wonder if anyone is working on an open source implementation that people could run on private servers. If it does get shut down, it would be nice if I could run this just for myself and my friends - really, it would be no different than inviting them to a party and turning on my radio. (Though, honestly, I'd wager someone has been sued for this.)
- clistctrl 15y agoThis site is actually pretty cool. 5 different versions of the chicken dance. I appreciate that.
- iqster 15y agoI just tried to request site access ... kudos to these guys ... the request process itself was hilarious! Attention to detail ... that's where it's at.
- pavel_lishin 15y agoI have a facebook account, and a friend who was a member, so my process was mostly just annoying. I guess they didn't want to deal too much with tracking referrals on their own end, so relegated the process to Facebook?
- teejaygreen 15y agoWhat did you find annoying about it? I clicked to log in, not knowing if a friend was already a member, but I guess someone was, because a few seconds later I was in. It was very simple and quick, it didn't annoy me at all.
- pavel_lishin 15y agoI find it annoying that I basically have to use Facebook to gain instant access. To be fair, I have no idea how the alternative login method works, but apparently you have to wait until they make it through to you in the queue - so if I invite a friend who doesn't have a Facebook account, I end up disappointing them.
- ChrisLTD 15y agoTurntable.fm is a lot of fun. I've been using it with offsite coworkers to create a sort of shared music space. Unfortunately, it seems like only a matter of time before it gets shut down by the RIAA or riddled with enough advertising to make it sickening.
- aaronblohowiak 15y agothey source their music through medianet, who presumably have deals with all the labels: http://www.mndigital.com/ http://www.mndigital.com/
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- pitdesi 15y agoThey use MediaNet for now... totally legal. It costs them around $.002 per listener of a serendipitous play, and 10 cents for the DJ (which is an on demand play)... This could get expensive pretty quickly, so I'd imagine they are negotiating/looking for another source. Also interesting - to be DMCA compliant, they'll also have to follow other groundrules, so users: 1) May not see ahead in a playlist past the currently playing song 2) May only play or pause the list 3) Can only play 3 songs per artist per hour, maximum 4) Can only play 4 songs from a single album in three consecutive hours, maximum 5) May skip ahead only 6 times per hour.
- pavel_lishin 15y agoWhat about the fact that I can upload my own music?
- vyrotek 15y agoWhat about the feature which lets you upload any mp3 you want and play it to the crowd? A lot of my files don't have the artist information, I don't know how they plan to pay to play the song.
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- trooon 15y agoThis site is addictive. Love it.
- pavel_lishin 15y agoI'd like to know more information about how people were able to download the streamed music, and what they did to stop it. Also, it would be nice if I could automatically scrobble the songs played to Last.fm.
- bproper 15y agoYou can Gabe K built a turntable.fm scrobbler - http://gabek.github.com/TurntableScrobbler/ http://gabek.github.com/TurntableScrobbler/
- pavel_lishin 15y agoAwesome! Thank you. I only wish his site wasn't a migrane generator.
- joepestro 15y agoHere's another one called Turntable.fm Extended (has a few other features, like notifications): https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/mnciafhfaahhafklckmcabbncbgcjpeg https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/mnciafhfaahhafklck...
- WrkInProgress 15y agoThis might be off-topic, but the guys who created turntable.fm, they are also the co-founders of Stickybits. So what's going on ? Are they running both companies or ?
- vyrotek 15y agohttp://techcrunch.com/2011/06/08/turntable-addiction/ http://techcrunch.com/2011/06/08/turntable-addiction/ "When Stickybits didn’t take off the way they hoped, Seth Goldstein and Billy Chasen pitched existing investors ($1.9mm raised) this idea and ran with it."
- WrkInProgress 15y agoSo Stickybits is in the dead pool I assume. Thanks for the info.
- funkdobiest 15y agoSorry don't use Facebook. Sounds like a toy to real Dj's
- vyrotek 15y agoI was pretty excited when this first came out. I listened to it all night. But, eventually I felt there was something still uncomfortable about the whole experience. Some people said it was their new Pandora. I can't say I feel the same. I get a little frustrated when I can't find a room playing stuff I want to hear. And then I get even more frustrated when I give stuff a thumbs-down but still have to listen to it and hope the next DJ doesn't suck. I feel like I've been too spoiled by personalized music services. Personally, the chat room isn't really a valuable feature.
- brown9-2 15y agoSeems like it's a lot more fun if you can join rooms with friends or people whose tastes you know intersect yours
- vyrotek 15y agoSure. The problem is that we would most likely use the 'upload' feature to share songs and not their existing library. I imagine that feature is going to disappear really soon.
- pavel_lishin 15y agoWhich is why it'd be nice if someone decided to implement an open source version of this we could run on private servers.
- pavel_lishin 15y agoExactly. When nobody I know is on, I just use Pandora - with a crowded room, I can't skip a song I hate. And with friends, you get exposed to new music from trusted sources, and everyone ends up trying to play something that's equally palatable. (Unless your friends are jerks and decide to play Tool's LAMC.)
- earbitscom 15y agoSo excited that you just referenced Tool's LAMC. To thumbs up this comment, press 1. WEEEEE-SKRUM.
- tathagatadg 15y agoI just discovered it, ... and now I can't stop trolling in the coding soundtracks room! IRC+music+game-mechanics - no wonder they hit that usercount!
- johnzimmerman 15y agoThis looks like a cool site, but I don't have a facebook account and won't create one for the purpose of logging in to another site.
- pavel_lishin 15y agoSomeone should write a quick bash script that'll automatically create a facebook account with random information, specifically for this type of circumstance. Obviously it would break the TOS, but it would give you a way of checking out some Facebook-only services. And if you have anarchist-leaning feelings, you'll also be sticking it to The Man by adding noise to their signal.
- ladon86 15y agoI'm pretty sure you can't create a working Facebook account using a quick bash script.
- pavel_lishin 15y agoThe biggest problem I can see is the e-mail verification, but I imagine even that sort of thing would be scriptable. It's all just squirting characters over HTTP, right?
- JonnieCache 15y agoIn theory, yes, but the problem with this kind of complex scraping is that you're constantly chasing the moving goalposts of facebook's code updates, which are frequent. See also: poker bots.
- justin 15y agoNice, bet you don't have a TV either.
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- klochner 15y agoI'm still pretty excited about turntable, but not because the music is so phenomenal. Turntable is the first web service that gives me the sense of physically hanging out with friends while online. I consider chat rooms or IM to be v1.0 of simulating real-time social interaction on the web, like sitting around a campfire and talking. But people don't do that very often IRL - they meet at places that have something interesting going on and chat in a low-intensity way while also listening to music, watching a show, eating, etc. Turntable gives a nice integration of passive entertainment, active participation, and social interaction that makes me feel like I'm hanging out at a club with friends. I can go see which friends are there & what they're doing, listen to a little music, or just say hi. I think that's cool.
- gogobears 15y agoDoes anyone know a way to get around my work firewall so I can access Turntable.fm from work?
- hucker 15y agoTurntable has got me thinking. It seems to me there would be a market for doing something similar for "real" DJs, where they could stream live sets to listeners. I know I love to listen to a good electronica DJ when I'm coding or just chilling, but I can't always take my laptop with me to a live set. Obviously it could be done with justin.tv or ustream for example, but something more customized for sound should exist. If it got popular one could even have a profit-sharing scheme with the DJs like justin.tv has (or is it ustream?), so not-super-famous DJs could earn some cash on the side. What do you think? Would anyone ever use a service like this?
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- rgarcia 15y agoThis is already sort of happening on turntable. The other night Sir Mix-A-Lot was DJing in one of the rooms.
- hucker 15y agoSo can a DJ on turntable actually DJ (e.g. transitions, mixes, effects etc)? If not, did Mix-A-Lot just put on cool songs in sequence or did he have a prerecorded mix or what? I mean for the regular facebook-crowd just putting on playlists for each other is cool, but what I was thinking was more focused towards people who enjoy live DJ sets. Alas, I have not been able to get into turntable.fm yet, so I have to ask :/
- rgarcia 15y agoNo transitions/mixes/effects, just picking cool songs and taking turns like everyone else. I could easily see turntable hosting solo DJ sets with transitions and everything (and charging admission). Definitely something I'd pay for.
- hucker 15y agoHeh, the concept of online clubs (with real DJ, cover charge etc) intrigues me. I wonder if that is just crazy enough to work.
- devindotcom 15y agoIsn't the first month, like, the least indicative month, out of ALL the months? If they have 200,000 next month and a million in a year, we'll talk, but this site has all the indicators of being a that's-cool-move-on thing.