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You don't have to be an "SJW" to be disgusted with Stallman. The vast, vast majority of people will not defend someone involved in a child sex trafficking ring.

You don't have to be an "SJW" to be disgusted with Stallman. The vast, vast majority of people will not defend someone involved in a child sex trafficking ring. That doesn't make you a "socialist", it makes you a regular human with a modicum of empathy and functioning moral compass.

McScroogy 5y ago
But you need to be a SJW to reject due process and the principle of charity, and opt for maximum moral outrage to exert control and power. Your claim that he defended somebody in a sex trafficking ring is not actually true, for example. Either you are unaware of that and simply run with the narrative of the SJW ideology, which would be exactly the goal, or you are deliberately misrepresenting it, which would also make the point that it is about politics, not personal disgust. Or explained in another way: apparently Stallman has not done anything illegal. So the people who insist on him being cut down want to install a new justice system. That's SJW ideology.
- solosoyokaze 5y ago
  People have a right to be outraged. To say otherwise is to impede on freedom of speech. > Your claim that he defended somebody in a sex trafficking ring is not actually true, for example. He continues to defend Minsky. This a fact. It's in his "apology".
- dang 5y ago
  We've banned this account for using HN primarily for ideological battle. That's not what this site is for. Please don't create accounts to break HN's rules with. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
  - McScroogy 5y ago
    You are a liar, at the very least, you are lying to yourself. You ban me for criticising socialism, not because of ideological battles. If you would care about ideology, you would ban the ideological subjects. For example Stallman's appointment was a frequent topic on here. I did not start those topics, and you let them stay. Case in point: I did not make any submissions with this account. I only commented. So it doesn't make sense to claim I created the account for ideological battle. It's also nonsense from you to claim that some discussion taking place in a deeply nested comment thread somehow distracts from what "HN is for". Those who don't care can simply gloss over it. I am not taking away any of your precious front page space. Just admit that you can't stand criticism of socialism, and that is your basic motivation here.
    - dang 5y ago
      Users who break the site guidelines around political flamewar always feel like we ban them for their politics. Actually we just ban people for breaking the guidelines. "You ban me for criticizing $X" can have $X = "socialism", "capitalism", or anything else. See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26148870 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26148870 for dozens of examples. We don't care what your favorite flavor of politics is any more than your favorite ice cream. Actually your favorite ice cream would be more interesting, because it gets discussed less. The tedium of these internet battles cannot be overstated.

McScroogy 5y ago

But you need to be a SJW to reject due process and the principle of charity, and opt for maximum moral outrage to exert control and power. Your claim that he defended somebody in a sex trafficking ring is not actually true, for example. Either you are unaware of that and simply run with the narrative of the SJW ideology, which would be exactly the goal, or you are deliberately misrepresenting it, which would also make the point that it is about politics, not personal disgust. Or explained in another way: apparently Stallman has not done anything illegal. So the people who insist on him being cut down want to install a new justice system. That's SJW ideology.

solosoyokaze 5y ago
People have a right to be outraged. To say otherwise is to impede on freedom of speech. > Your claim that he defended somebody in a sex trafficking ring is not actually true, for example. He continues to defend Minsky. This a fact. It's in his "apology".
dang 5y ago
We've banned this account for using HN primarily for ideological battle. That's not what this site is for. Please don't create accounts to break HN's rules with. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- McScroogy 5y ago
  You are a liar, at the very least, you are lying to yourself. You ban me for criticising socialism, not because of ideological battles. If you would care about ideology, you would ban the ideological subjects. For example Stallman's appointment was a frequent topic on here. I did not start those topics, and you let them stay. Case in point: I did not make any submissions with this account. I only commented. So it doesn't make sense to claim I created the account for ideological battle. It's also nonsense from you to claim that some discussion taking place in a deeply nested comment thread somehow distracts from what "HN is for". Those who don't care can simply gloss over it. I am not taking away any of your precious front page space. Just admit that you can't stand criticism of socialism, and that is your basic motivation here.
  - dang 5y ago
    Users who break the site guidelines around political flamewar always feel like we ban them for their politics. Actually we just ban people for breaking the guidelines. "You ban me for criticizing $X" can have $X = "socialism", "capitalism", or anything else. See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26148870 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26148870 for dozens of examples. We don't care what your favorite flavor of politics is any more than your favorite ice cream. Actually your favorite ice cream would be more interesting, because it gets discussed less. The tedium of these internet battles cannot be overstated.