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Run Ethernet for everything you care about; problem solved. If only wired ethernet was considered standard wiring like coax and power outlets, and installed du
by wffurr 6y ago
Run Ethernet for everything you care about; problem solved.
If only wired ethernet was considered standard wiring like coax and power outlets, and installed during construction.
- ajdude 6y agoI recommend just running conduit to everything during your next renovation, that way you could easily upgrade down the road. I wish conduit was used for all of these coax lines in my house.
- michaelt 6y ago20 years ago, I heard people online saying they were running their cat5e cable in conduits for ease of upgrading. Reasonable enough, after the 10-megabit to 100-megabit to 1-gigabit upgrades of the preceding decade. Not once, since then, have I heard of any of them pulling new cables.
- walrus01 6y agothere is a pretty good chance that 20-30 meters of cat5e utp in a house will test successfully for 2.5GBaseT today, not that even one percent of consumers will have such a switch.
- throw0101a 6y agoOfficially 2.5G can run up to 100m on Cate 5e: * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethernet_over_twisted_pair#Variants https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethernet_over_twisted_pair#Var... So I wouldn't be surprised if 5GigE, and maybe even 10, could be done on shorter runs.
- klyrs 6y agoI still want a mainframe in my basement and HDMI ports in my walls for thin-client laptops...
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- wayoutthere 6y agoIn 2021, if you’re running network in the walls, run fiber to switches with SFP adapters. We maxed out twisted pair copper years ago (you can squeeze more over shorter runs, but that hits diminishing returns quickly) and home internet speeds are going above 1gbps. If you install in-wall cat6 it’ll probably be obsolete by the end of the decade.
- MikeKusold 6y agoCat6a supports 10gbps. That should be good enough for the foreseeable future. Fiber is significantly more difficult to pull through the wall since it is more fragile.
- yardie 6y agoFiber is not significantly harder than Cat6 and the turns can be quite a bit tighter. But terminating can be very expensive; the best price I have for a commercial fiber tech is $100/end.
- throwanem 6y agoThe turns in fiber can be tighter than in Cat 6, really? Granted my experience pulling any kind of cable is most of two decades stale by this point, and my one experience with installing fiber considerably older still - I'm still surprised to hear fiber could be easier to pull.
- walrus01 6y agog.657.b3 ultra bend loss insensitive can take a remarkable amount of abuse, it's designed for difficult FTTH installs. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBt00CVvMBA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBt00CVvMBA
- throwanem 6y agoThanks for linking the video. That is wild to me - if I'd tried that staple gun trick with Cat 6 on a worksite, my boss would've kicked my ass all the way back to the office, and rightly so. I'd have never dreamed of seeing fiber that could hold up to it!
- yardie 6y agoAnd make sure a low-voltage electrician installs it. Half my ethernet are daisy chained. Some of it is stapled to the studs of the wall. Of the 5 drops in my condo only 3 lead back to the IDF. Fixing it is going to be damn near impossible.
- walrus01 6y agoThis is what happens when electricians treat cat5e/cat6 UTP like a fancy new fat POTS cable. I bet it's spliced together with these connectors too. https://www.ebay.com/itm/splice-connector-ideal-85-925-jellybean-data-cable-connector-for-26-19-AWG-pk-10-/401709200437 https://www.ebay.com/itm/splice-connector-ideal-85-925-jelly...
- yardie 6y agoThey didn't even do that. They double punched the RJ45 jacks. They used the proper Cat5e everywhere (cables, jacks, and punch blocks) but the wiring was done terrible enough that I can't really use it.
- nonameiguess 6y agoYeah, I wish. I wanted to do this in a townhouse where we have RJ-45 ports in every room, but for some reason, they aren't actually internally connected to each other. Only I found the walls are all completely filled with insulation and running any new wiring at all requires pulling some of that out first and then putting it back in after, otherwise the nice noise barrier I currently enjoy from my walls shared with neighbors suddenly goes away. This means instead of making one hole upstairs, dropping a weighted cable, and making a second hole downstairs, I now need to tear out entire sections of wall.
- rhodozelia 6y agoElectricians have tools and methods to run wires in walls with insulation without tearing them out. You should call one!
- sidewndr46 6y agoThey make small fiberglass sections that are threaded. You can assemble them together (even in tiny spaces) and push them through wall cavities until you get to your destination. Then you use the rod to pull the new wire (or a piece of string) backwards. I've done this to pull through walls with insulation quite often. I've even used them to fish through all sort of crazy places. It's fast and easy once you get the hang of it.
- HeyLaughingBoy 6y agoI thought it was. My house was built in 2003 and has CAT-5 to every room with RJ45 jacks on the walls. When I sold my previous house to a builder, he planned to open the walls and run CAT5 also, because "everyone expects that these days." I guess newer houses might be expecting everything to be WiFi now, though.