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> 909+303+303, devices that support only a 1 bar loop Ha, no, you can input a great deal more than a single bar into them. They were designed to let users stor
by Supernaut 5y ago
> 909+303+303, devices that support only a 1 bar loop
Ha, no, you can input a great deal more than a single bar into them. They were designed to let users store a variety of patterns, which can then be assembled into a traditional intro-verse-chorus song structure, if you so wish.
- sideshowb 5y agoDoh I stand corrected :) Though still nowhere near as much potential for refining the end result as you get with a DAW. That's not to say live performance doesn't have value of course!
- kortex 5y agoYep I've done it. Suuuper tedious. Which is why I suspect even though you can do 2 or more bar phrases, single bar loops (vamps?) are pretty typical, instead varying the filter envelope and distortion over time.
- sideshowb 5y agoOff topic but I found my preferred method of 'live' performance (for dnb) was to write a tune in the DAW with the intention that a few of the lead parts be played live, then switch off those parts and render what's effectively a backing track. Meant I could sort the mixing/mastering beforehand and keep in the flow of rocking out on synths when it came to the gig. I did use ableton but only to auto load synth patches/effect chains when each backing track was triggered. I tried many other approaches involving 5 people driving a live looping rig but the above was worked best for me, which I guess made my act a 2010 equivalent of the guy wearing the burgandy velvet suit in the hotel bar ;-)
- munificent 5y agoEven with a single pattern, you can add a lot of variation just by changing the pattern lengths to do polyrhythms. Say you do: 909: 16 steps 303 bass: 5 steps 303 lead: 3 steps Now you have a sequence that only repeats every 240 steps or every 15 bars, even though each device never uses more than a single 16 step pattern.