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I think it's worth noting the context for this article - which a lot of people have missed. This study was performed when there was quite a lot of reporting on

by reedf1 6y ago

I think it's worth noting the context for this article - which a lot of people have missed. This study was performed when there was quite a lot of reporting on "one glass of red-wine a day", as being healthy and an important source of antioxidants. This is no longer believed to be true, but was (and is still) widely believed.

alanfranz 6y ago
And yet the study talks about "alcohol related illness like cancer or other injury" (which kind of injury btw? a car accident?) and admits "moderate drinking may protect against heart disease". I need a citation for the "heart protection vs other disease". Hey, I'm 100% confident that heavy drinking is bad. But very moderate drinking (like, one glass of wine per day, when having dinner), for what I can see, seems to be correlated with moderate people that can limit themselves and yet it helps relaxing, de-stressing, having a chat. All those things are good for somebody's overall mood and health. Stress is bad. Everything IMHO. I'm not an MD or an expert.
- solaris152000 6y ago
  Alcohol is an addictive drug. Sure, if you have one drink a day it MIGHT relax you. But you also run the real risk of becoming an alcoholic and dying. Given that alcohol kills so many people, it doesn't seem worth the risk.
  - alanfranz 6y ago
    Life is risky. Where I live almost everybody drinks, moderately. And yet very, very few people become an alcoholic.
- ivanbakel 6y ago
  >(which kind of injury btw? a car accident?) Probably the most common non-cancerous injury from alcohol is cirrhosis of the liver.
  - alanfranz 6y ago
    Would you call that an "injury", and not a disease?
    - ivanbakel 6y ago
      I'm not a medical researcher, so what exactly I would call it isn't too important. But you could describe the fibrosis which leads to cirrhosis as a direct "injury" from alcohol use.
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catears 6y ago
The article says the following: "The Global Burden of Disease study looked at levels of alcohol use and its health effects in 195 countries, including the UK', between 1990 and 2016." I don't know of a global mindset when it comes to drinking alcohol/wine that ranged between 1990 and 2016?

by reedf1 6y ago

alanfranz 6y ago

And yet the study talks about "alcohol related illness like cancer or other injury" (which kind of injury btw? a car accident?) and admits "moderate drinking may protect against heart disease". I need a citation for the "heart protection vs other disease". Hey, I'm 100% confident that heavy drinking is bad. But very moderate drinking (like, one glass of wine per day, when having dinner), for what I can see, seems to be correlated with moderate people that can limit themselves and yet it helps relaxing, de-stressing, having a chat. All those things are good for somebody's overall mood and health. Stress is bad. Everything IMHO. I'm not an MD or an expert.

solaris152000 6y ago
Alcohol is an addictive drug. Sure, if you have one drink a day it MIGHT relax you. But you also run the real risk of becoming an alcoholic and dying. Given that alcohol kills so many people, it doesn't seem worth the risk.
- alanfranz 6y ago
  Life is risky. Where I live almost everybody drinks, moderately. And yet very, very few people become an alcoholic.
ivanbakel 6y ago
>(which kind of injury btw? a car accident?) Probably the most common non-cancerous injury from alcohol is cirrhosis of the liver.
- alanfranz 6y ago
  Would you call that an "injury", and not a disease?
  - ivanbakel 6y ago
    I'm not a medical researcher, so what exactly I would call it isn't too important. But you could describe the fibrosis which leads to cirrhosis as a direct "injury" from alcohol use.
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catears 6y ago

The article says the following: "The Global Burden of Disease study looked at levels of alcohol use and its health effects in 195 countries, including the UK', between 1990 and 2016." I don't know of a global mindset when it comes to drinking alcohol/wine that ranged between 1990 and 2016?