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Pretty sure those sites break in Edge and Brave as well...

by Ygg2 6y ago

Cthulhu_ 6y ago
They break them on purpose so people will switch to Chrome. And the worst part is, there's no evidence (yet?) that there's malice behind it. Maybe we'll get a whistleblower at some point, but that'll only happen when their income no longer covers buying off their conscience.
- scaladev 6y ago
  Do they only break for users in the United States? I've been using Firefox exclusively since about 2.0, and I've never had any of the Google projects break for me. Not once. Yet this seems to be a pretty common problem around here.
  - Ygg2 6y ago
    I'm from Europe and on one occasion Youtube was broken on Firefox but not on Chrome. It was fixed in the day or two.
    - yakubin 6y ago
      In my experience, YouTube in-video links (those that e.g. show thumbnails of videos and are pointed at by vloggers with their fingers) have been broken in Firefox for years. Not that I complain, I've always been annoyed by those. I think it took me 2 years to realize that after seeing vloggers point at invisible things. I had to double-check in Chrome. (I just assumed that they forgot to add the links when editing.)
      - cardiffspaceman 6y ago
        Those links don't appear on my Android-based Youtube clients that come with my cable box and Sony TV. The vlogger's hand points to nothing. It's amazing how second-class Youtube on Android TV is, maybe someone at Google hates testing it. I still manage to use it for about 75% of my Youtube usage. My wife and I are definitely going through a Youtube phase, which will probably end when the ads reach a tipping point.
- michalstanko 6y ago
  What exactly is broken in Firefox on YouTube or Gmail? I'm not a heavy Firefox user, but when I try it every once in a while, I've never noticed anything broken on any of the Google's sites, even Maps and Docs worked just fine - but then, maybe I wasn't trying out some advanced features.
  - visiblink 6y ago
    My wife and I have had a fanless PC hooked up to our TV since 2011. Firefox is the only browser we use and we watch Youtube every day. If it broke, I'd know about it or hear about it. It never breaks.
  - bmn__ 6y ago
    > What exactly is broken in Firefox on YouTube or Gmail? Performance. That makes the sabotage so insidious! https://tech.co/news/google-slowed-youtube-firefox-edge-2019-04 https://tech.co/news/google-slowed-youtube-firefox-edge-2019... https://addons.mozilla.org/addon/disable-polymer-youtube https://addons.mozilla.org/addon/disable-polymer-youtube
- jojohohanon 6y ago
  Incompetent vs malice... If they are close to the edge cases of the spec, just not testing on Firefox will break it. By negligence, rather than malice.

Pretty sure those sites break in Edge and Brave as well...

by Ygg2 6y ago

Pretty sure those sites break in Edge and Brave as well...

They break them on purpose so people will switch to Chrome. And the worst part is, there's no evidence (yet?) that there's malice behind it. Maybe we'll get a whistleblower at some point, but that'll only happen when their income no longer covers buying off their conscience.

scaladev 6y ago
Do they only break for users in the United States? I've been using Firefox exclusively since about 2.0, and I've never had any of the Google projects break for me. Not once. Yet this seems to be a pretty common problem around here.
- Ygg2 6y ago
  I'm from Europe and on one occasion Youtube was broken on Firefox but not on Chrome. It was fixed in the day or two.
  - yakubin 6y ago
    In my experience, YouTube in-video links (those that e.g. show thumbnails of videos and are pointed at by vloggers with their fingers) have been broken in Firefox for years. Not that I complain, I've always been annoyed by those. I think it took me 2 years to realize that after seeing vloggers point at invisible things. I had to double-check in Chrome. (I just assumed that they forgot to add the links when editing.)
    - cardiffspaceman 6y ago
      Those links don't appear on my Android-based Youtube clients that come with my cable box and Sony TV. The vlogger's hand points to nothing. It's amazing how second-class Youtube on Android TV is, maybe someone at Google hates testing it. I still manage to use it for about 75% of my Youtube usage. My wife and I are definitely going through a Youtube phase, which will probably end when the ads reach a tipping point.
michalstanko 6y ago
What exactly is broken in Firefox on YouTube or Gmail? I'm not a heavy Firefox user, but when I try it every once in a while, I've never noticed anything broken on any of the Google's sites, even Maps and Docs worked just fine - but then, maybe I wasn't trying out some advanced features.
- visiblink 6y ago
  My wife and I have had a fanless PC hooked up to our TV since 2011. Firefox is the only browser we use and we watch Youtube every day. If it broke, I'd know about it or hear about it. It never breaks.
- bmn__ 6y ago
  > What exactly is broken in Firefox on YouTube or Gmail? Performance. That makes the sabotage so insidious! https://tech.co/news/google-slowed-youtube-firefox-edge-2019-04 https://tech.co/news/google-slowed-youtube-firefox-edge-2019... https://addons.mozilla.org/addon/disable-polymer-youtube https://addons.mozilla.org/addon/disable-polymer-youtube
jojohohanon 6y ago
Incompetent vs malice... If they are close to the edge cases of the spec, just not testing on Firefox will break it. By negligence, rather than malice.