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Perhaps the driver was in the driver's seat and engaged autopilot and then hopped over into the passenger's seat and that's exactly when it crashed?

grecy 6y ago
The car in question didn't even have autopilot, so it wasn't even a feature on that car that could have theoretically been engaged. It's like saying they started the internal combustion engine before the crash.... which clearly can't be possible, because that vehicle doesn't have an internal combustion engine.
- jtsiskin 6y ago
  Where does it say it didn’t have autopilot?
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  - United857 6y ago
    In the tweet from Elon in the top-level comment.
    - rincebrain 6y ago
      The statement from Musk was "Data logs recovered so far show Autopilot was not enabled & this car did not purchase FSD.", which I would interpret to mean "Autopilot was purchased but wasn't enabled at the time; FSD wasn't purchased at all", otherwise I'd expect him to have written "this car did not purchase Autopilot and FSD."
      - ZephyrBlu 6y ago
        Are Autopilot and FSD not the same thing?
        rincebrain 6y ago
        Not quite, no. AIUI Autopilot is the basic "can sometimes handle steering the car through basic tasks" package, and FSD is the additional "we promise this will be full autonomous driving one day if you buy it now" package. Evidently as of a certain point all new Teslas come with Autopilot for free (but not the FSD license), and you can always buy upgrades after the fact (unless you have a Tesla sold prior to them shipping the current full suite of sensors in every car...) cf. https://www.tesla.com/support/autopilot https://www.tesla.com/support/autopilot
- londons_explore 6y ago
  It could be a hacked car to enable autopilot. There are lots of shady places which will do that for you and save you lots of $$$...
  - dzhiurgis 6y ago
    Can you elaborate on that? I've heard this too, but also Tesla praises their software is unhackable...
    - londons_explore 6y ago
      You drive the car to them in Seattle, fork over $4,300, they spend about an hour enabling FSD. You never get software updates and can't do warranty stuff afterwards.
    - GianFabien 6y ago
      There is no such thing is bug-free, un-hackable software! Any claims to the contrary are modern day snake oil.

grecy 6y ago

The car in question didn't even have autopilot, so it wasn't even a feature on that car that could have theoretically been engaged. It's like saying they started the internal combustion engine before the crash.... which clearly can't be possible, because that vehicle doesn't have an internal combustion engine.

jtsiskin 6y ago
Where does it say it didn’t have autopilot?
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- United857 6y ago
  In the tweet from Elon in the top-level comment.
  - rincebrain 6y ago
    The statement from Musk was "Data logs recovered so far show Autopilot was not enabled & this car did not purchase FSD.", which I would interpret to mean "Autopilot was purchased but wasn't enabled at the time; FSD wasn't purchased at all", otherwise I'd expect him to have written "this car did not purchase Autopilot and FSD."
    - ZephyrBlu 6y ago
      Are Autopilot and FSD not the same thing?
      - rincebrain 6y ago
        Not quite, no. AIUI Autopilot is the basic "can sometimes handle steering the car through basic tasks" package, and FSD is the additional "we promise this will be full autonomous driving one day if you buy it now" package. Evidently as of a certain point all new Teslas come with Autopilot for free (but not the FSD license), and you can always buy upgrades after the fact (unless you have a Tesla sold prior to them shipping the current full suite of sensors in every car...) cf. https://www.tesla.com/support/autopilot https://www.tesla.com/support/autopilot
londons_explore 6y ago
It could be a hacked car to enable autopilot. There are lots of shady places which will do that for you and save you lots of $$$...
- dzhiurgis 6y ago
  Can you elaborate on that? I've heard this too, but also Tesla praises their software is unhackable...
  - londons_explore 6y ago
    You drive the car to them in Seattle, fork over $4,300, they spend about an hour enabling FSD. You never get software updates and can't do warranty stuff afterwards.
  - GianFabien 6y ago
    There is no such thing is bug-free, un-hackable software! Any claims to the contrary are modern day snake oil.